CMP differences: Ford vs Chevrolet

[Brian Gough]

Hi Svenn,

On some of the Chevs the fire extinguisher was mounted on top of the engine cover. If you find 6 holes there if may have been for that.

Brian

[David Dunlop]

Hi Svenn.

What my aging eyes see in the photos you posted are the large clips for the Enfields, a set of four Ford Side Curtain Bag clips, one version of the First Aid Kit stowage clips and the large item in the last photo is a mystery to me.

I think the Chev crank handle is a one piece heavy steel bar and it was stored with the rest of the vehicle tools in whatever outside storage bins the particular Chev was equipped with, so there should not be any handle brackets for it.

As for the Fire Extinguisher being stored behind the Side Curtain Bag, that may in fact have been the last place a Fire Extinguisher was mounted, but not the original place. As Brian suggested, check elsewhere in the cab for a set of holes that matches up with the bracket. It could very well be that over time in service, the Side Curtain Bags became redundant and their use was discontinued. That would have left the rear wall of the cab open for anything to be mounted there.

Regards,


David

[r.morrison]

Hi Sven: Here are some photos of my C60L......Robert

[r.morrison]

Sven.....here are a couple of different curtain bags I have......Robert

[Svenn Ryen]

Hi guys.

Thanks for the replies.

Heres a picture of the fire-ext bracket i mounted in the holes on my back panel. The holes are not custom drilled out, but factory made, I am 100% sure!


Could be a water truck issue?? Could bracket have been mounted on the outside?


Svenn

[Svenn Ryen]

Hi David...dont blame your age for seeing the rifle brackets when not having some size references.


Heres is a scetch of what i found on the F60 i got some parts from. All holes looked factory done.

And heres som Pictures of the clamps....showing the crank in them and a special picture for you David together with the rifle bracket

The little plate was for getting all clamps at same "level".

Svenn

[Svenn Ryen]

BTW- any drawings for the Storage bags available?


Svenn

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by r.morrison

Sven.....here are a couple of different curtain bags I have......Robert

Thanks!

So which one is the Chev one and which is the Ford one?!?

[David Dunlop]

This is the first time I have seen two different styles of Side Curtain Stowage Bags and it actually answers a question I had from when I owned my C15A Wireless Truck. It was equipped with the curved style Stowage Bag hooks in the cab and the NOS Bag I found was the second pattern shown, with the flat leather straps fitted to the back of it. It never hung properly on the curved Chev hooks. When you slid the leather straps over the hooks, the upper portion of the bag was cocked forward at a 45 degree angle and the design made no sense to me at all.

The first pattern bag shown, with the canvas straps and metal rings would hang perfectly with the curved 'Chev' hooks, and I suspect the leather strap bag was designed for the flatter, angular, 'Ford' hooks.

When I think of it, whenever I used to see an MB/GPW, M38, M151 or any other soft top military vehicle in service on the road in nice weather, I do not ever recall seeing all the canvas top bits properly stowed where they are supposed to be on the vehicle, when not in use. The vehicle was bare, so the canvas bits must have been left on Base somewhere until needed. The CMP side curtains and related stowage bags may have gone the same route in the later years the CMP's were still in service. They were probably all piled up in stores until the weather determined they should be installed and the bags fell into disuse. If the bags were Ford and Chev specific as well, that may have helped accelerate their disuse: too hard to match up dwindling stock. Maybe Rob Love and others with outstanding service careers can enlighten us on the military policy for care and stowage of canvas vehicle bits.


David

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Cross posting to Cab 13 Storage Bag - see how the storage / stowage bag hangs off the hooks on this C15A.

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by David Dunlop

This is the first time I have seen two different styles of Side Curtain Stowage Bags and it actually answers a question I had from when I owned my C15A Wireless Truck. It was equipped with the curved style Stowage Bag hooks in the cab and the NOS Bag I found was the second pattern shown, with the flat leather straps fitted to the back of it. It never hung properly on the curved Chev hooks. When you slid the leather straps over the hooks, the upper portion of the bag was cocked forward at a 45 degree angle and the design made no sense to me at all.

The first pattern bag shown, with the canvas straps and metal rings would hang perfectly with the curved 'Chev' hooks, and I suspect the leather strap bag was designed for the flatter, angular, 'Ford' hooks.

David,

Today I checked the bag I have (with the brass eyelets) and it doesn't fit quite right in my Ford F15A. I noted there are two types of hooks on both Fords and Chevrolets - see my postings above - and my F15A has the shorter of the two Ford hooks. In my opinion, the bag hangs too high. If the side screens are in the bag, the top of the bag protudes above the lower edge of the rear window.

Also, the first pattern bag with the brass eyelets has a strap on the bottom, but my Ford does not have anything fitted to the floor / lower cab edge where the strap could be fitted through. Can anyne with a Chevrolet check if there is some kind of eyelet on the cab floor?

So I agree with you: the first pattern bag shown, with the canvas straps and brass eyelets would fit the Chevrolet hooks, the second pattern with two rows of canvas straps would (better) fit the flatter, angular, hooks in the Ford cab.

Can anyone confirm / add to this?

Hanno

• First pattern - for Chevrolet?

• Second pattern - for Ford?