42 Pilot Model HUP Project

[RHClarke]

We removed the Pilot Model's roof with the aim of determining what had to be done to repair it and to gain access to the support pillars. We noted that the front left and right edges of the roof differs from the production model in that they are more angular than the production roof forward edges. The sub-frame is very strudy made up of fairly robust steel channel.

The following photos show the extent of the damage to the roof:

1 - From the rear of the roof - the rounded edges are in fair shape but most of the edges where the roof meets the frame is rotted.
2 - Left front forward edge of the roof showing its unique shape - this I will preserve at all costs.
3 - The leading edge of the roof showing significant damage.
4 - Right front edge.
5 - Damage along the mid section.

[RHClarke]

Some of the major differences between the Pilot Model and the production model included two piece side and rear walls, and the the use of separate support pillars between the lower portion of the walls and the roof.

Photos:
1 - Right rear of the truck showing roof and wall less front and middle pillars.
2 - Pax side door (with doghouse next to it) - note the glass roll up window.
3 - Rear pillars.
4 - Front (smaller) and mid (larger) support pillars.
5 - Left rear view showing the well constructed sub-frame

[RHClarke]

The Pilot model HUP differed from the production models in terms of doors and windows. The two front doors were narrower at the top than the later model cab 13 doors and incorporated roll up windows and door handles (as opposed to the rocker arm door opening devices). There are two small side windows that fit forward of the forward door frames.

The side doors too, had roll up windows. The two rear doors and the two side windows had sliding glass plates. The following photos show the robust construction materials used in the Pilot model.

Photos

1 - Pilot model pax side door.
2 -" Delmar Cobban RR 5 Mt Brydges" (close to London Ontario).
3 - Inside panel.
4 - Close up of panel.
5 - Upper window frame

[RHClarke]

Photos

1 - Earlier repair job - pop rivets and folded metal. It did the job a bit too well. Water got in but had no way out until it made a way out...

2 - The hidden damage.

3 - Interior detail - lots of surface rust but not too much damage to the interior workings and inner panel. The window regulator still worked well but the support (resting on the metal stop below the regulator) needs to be replaced.

4 - The outline resembles the cab 12 door inside profile.

5 - Comparison cab 12 and Pilot model doors.

[david moore]

Just seeing you load the HUP out of the chicken barn - question for Bob....what make/specs of winch do you have on your trailer, Bob. Obviously it can handle that pretty heavy HUP easily. Is it just a 12v winch? What do they cost approx.? I have a hand winch which can handle the jeep but not the F8.

Good to see you all at Gracies by the way - worth driving from Kingston!

[Bob Carriere]

Hi David

Was nice to see you last week.

Winch is a 9000 pounds single pull model from Princess Auto...... doubled with pulley block claimed to pull 18,000.

All I can say is that when you try pulling a cab 13 dump truck frozen to the ground it pulled the Ford and the trailer backwards and the CMP was still not moving. So we tied the front of the Ford to a tank and broke the icy grip on the CMP by jacking the cab 13 sideways with sheepherders jacks..... and broke one of the jacks. Once freed up the winch just pulled it on the Trailer.

Power to the winch is by means of two 25 feet sections of #2 welding cables...fortunately the Ford diesel has two large batteries.

It has proven to be a reliable workhorse on our many recoveries some of which the CMP tires were either flat or the wheels rusted solid.

Prices have dropped considerably over the last 5 years ..... $500 to 600 will now get you a 13,500 single pull winch at PA.

My trailer is rated at 9900 pounds to beat some regulation. I have had slightly over the capacity a few time.....but do not make it a common practice.

I consider that over the years it has served us well and saved a lot of aching muscles. It is now due for a total repaint / rewiring.

Bob

[RHClarke]

My focus today was on the driver's side door for the Pilot Model. It was in better shape than the pax side door but requires some repair.

I decided to cut out the rusty metal along the straight edges and to fill in the pin holes along the curved edge. After about an hour or so of welding and grinding I managed to weld up most of the pin holes along the curved edge. I think I just may be getting the hang of welding thin rusty metal. Right now, I am convinced that it would have taken more time to fab up a curved section to weld in than to fill in the holes. However, there is some cosmetic work still to be done, but I will get to that later on.

Right now I am happy with the progress - such as it is.

Photos:

1 - Dvr side door showing extent of damage (circled).
2 - Damage on curved edge.
3 - Damage on lower corner.
4 - Curved section almost completed.