Humber FV1600

Richard Coutts-Smith · #1 06-08-12, 01:55

Thanks Richard.
Will have to do a little research on the replacement seal. The Rolls Manual shows a drawing of the special tools, obviously the military decided it was less risky to remove the head.
Rich.

Richard Coutts-Smith · #2 14-12-13, 09:33

I have finally identified this bracket as being for a crowbar. The Humber CES I have seen does not list a crowbar, and I have not been able to find a pic of one stowed in any photos. It appears that this is only found on the FFW version, not the Cargo. It also seems that all Aussie Humbers have the FFW body, although only 14 were used as such. Given this FFW connection, what sort of crowbar would be applicable?
I have been using the brakets for storing part of the canopy frame because they fit so well, according to the (not always correct) spare's manual) I am wrong.
Any ideas?
Rich.

fv1620 · #3 14-12-13, 10:11

Rich could it be for an earth spike and sledge hammer?

Richard Coutts-Smith · #4 14-12-13, 11:25

G'Day Clive.
I know the radio body has a sledge hammer mounted next to the pick helve, but in this case I can only go by the number stamped on the brackets at each end: FV228904 Bracket, Stop, Crowbar.
Rich.

fv1620 · #5 14-12-13, 12:25

Oh well Rich that really defines it. I can't find any in-service pictures with a crow bar, nor can I find any reference in the Commer handbook nor in the 1962 CES in Army Code 33577.

I just wonder whether the crow bar was part of the original kit when it was a Truck CT. But when about £250 was saved per vehicle by doing away with fancy bits to designate it as a Truck GS, that the crow bar was discontinued?

Although why a FFW needed a crow bar I have no idea.

Richard Coutts-Smith · #6 14-12-13, 12:36

The Commer book let you down??
I think you are 100% correct about it being cut. One mention in everything I have read does not seem right. The main holding brackets, in from each end, have been drilled for a rivet, possibly to fasten a buffer of some sort? but have never seen anything actually fitted.
As always, thanks for the help
Rich.

fv1620 · #7 14-12-13, 12:50

Rich unfortunately of the FVRDE Design Specs I have for Humbers I do not have the FV1602 one.

But I do have the WO Spec for FV1606 dated March 1950. Amongst the many tools carried it includes:

Bar Crow 4' 1"

So would that be the right length? I have a number of VAOS for MT tools but none of them include any sort of crow bar.