permit for road travel?

[Jack Innes]

[QUOTE=Robin Craig;167053]In Ontario, if you have an ATV registration, unless your municipality permits it, an ATV can not be driven on the road. An ATV under the highway traffic act is defined as a vehicle that one sits "astride" of.

I too questioned the "sitting astride" definition of an ATV when I asked the local MOT office to change the registration on my Iltis from the ATV one it was issued on release from the government to a regular car registration. After several calls to head office they were able to do it. No answer was forthcoming on why they thought you could sit astride an Iltis.

I have not looked into it but does anyone know what they classify an "Argo" or such off road machines that you definitely sit inside? Actually an Argo with the track option is very similar to a carrier - except for the floating option of the Argo.

[chris vickery]

Just remember fellas, you can call it whatever you want, justify it however you interpret the Law, or otherwise do what you like but, at the end of the day you are breaking the rules. All it will take is ONE TIME and the future is wrecked for the rest of us.
The first time a carrier owner gets popped for no plates, no insurance etc, the first bystander who gets injured, the first lawsuit which gets denied coverage by the insurance company etc etc.
When it comes to insurance, you guys should all know better. Insurance companies are slimy bastards by nature who weasel out of whatever they can. Give them a reason to deny coverage because you lied or misrepresented your vehicle and you are in a world of legal and financial difficulites on an exponential scale.
If I may illustate using an example;
You take your carrier to a parade being held by "name your group"
I have heard all too many times that the parade organizers have coverage.
You drive your carrier accross town to the parade and get in an accident. The organizers will run high tailed claiming you were on your own time.
Now, if you make it there OK and have an accident while on parade, who is covering you? The Legion who invited you? The Municipality or City government? Your local OMVA? Your own insurance???
I think too many of us take it for granted and hope for the best, afterall it will never happen to me....
Food for though gentlemen.

[Robin Craig]

Jack, dont go there re an Argo, it is the same plate as an ATV.

I agree with Chris.

Unless the road is closed to traffic as a bona fide parade, it aint legal, period.

R

[Andrew]

Just a heads up for you guys here in Canada. Hagerty does insure tracked vehicles. You have to talk to Hagerty Canada and not Lant insurance as they don't have a clue. I called Lant (they do Hagerty insurance)originally and they said no, but i have a buddy in the USA that has insurance on their half-track thru Hagerty. When I called Hagerty Canada they asked me right after asking them do they insure halftracks "is it an M2 or M3" lol and said they have more than a few insured

Andy

[Harry Moon]

.... or try a temp permit for your 42 Ford Convertible....
The most dangerous thing to do with a carrier is to drive on steel. Like the ramps and deck of a trailer. I was only a few feet away from the worlds largest V8 powered chain saw once and winching is now highly recommended!

[Robin Craig]

Oh boy, you making me feel really old now, steel on steel, not a pretty sight.

Sometimes people just have to learn the hard way.

R

[Alex Blair (RIP)]

Originally Posted by Robin Craig

Oh boy, you making me feel really old now, steel on steel, not a pretty sight.

Sometimes people just have to learn the hard way.

R

One of the neatest scenes I had seen in a long time was Pinky Parker's Mk1* laying on it's side in front of his house after loading it on a flat deck and then pulling out of the driveway in a hurry ,while turning to head down the street..Needless to say centrifugal force and a steel trailer deck did the rest..
If we all said Please maybe Bruce will post the picture and an example of what not to do when transporting your tracked vehicle..I must give it to Bruce though..this was years ago when he was young and Foolish..
Now he got old too fast and smart too late.
No Carriers were destroyed in this story and no dummy's were killed.