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Old 02-06-12, 04:28
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Default Nice shot of the engine stands....

... I now understand the rear engine mount arrangement and removeable instrument panel...... very clever.

Also love your elevator arrangement for storage to the second floor.

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Old 06-06-12, 17:47
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Default Mathew Halton's HUP

Hi Phil: I was looking for something on the CBC site today and found this photo of Mathew Halton and his HUP. I suspect yoiu've seen it before but just in case...

Photo credit: National Archives of Canada / PA-204812

Website: http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/dday1944/halton.html

Looks like a cam pattern painted above the visible wheel.

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Old 07-06-12, 15:11
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Default Mathew Halton's HUP

Hi Mike

First thanks much for posting the picture and link. I had seen the photo before but you spotted something I had never noticed, the camouflage,
this style I think was called Micky Mouse Ears. Here is a slightly better source picture.



What you spotted brings out a very interesting point though not all the units had camouflage paint. Recording Unit 4 which seems to have been the most photographed doesn't.




The second photo of Recording Unit 4 shows it before the signage had been paint on the rear.
As a result of your spotting this though I started looking through sources here is a picture
of the side of one of the Recording Units number unknown, that has camouflage maybe the same Unit as in the photo you spotted.


Again thanks for posting the picture and link to the CBC page I'll have to update
my web page to include the new information you found.

Cheers Phil
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Old 07-06-12, 21:20
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Default CBC Camouflage

Hi Phil:

Looking at the two middle photos, as you say, they are of the same vehicle- Z4214033 and it is definitely camouflaged... in photo 2 look at the seam between the roof and the rear body panel. you can see a definite colour change a few inches below it. I would suggest that Unit 4's recording van definitely had a cam pattern. As you can see in photo 3 there is a broad band of colour running almost vertically through and below the middle window to the wheel well. Looking back at photo 2 you can see the same band once you know where to look! That would be consistent with the directives for painting the invasion 'fleet' of vehicles. There were many patterns authorised and Mike Starmer has done a better job of recording them than I can do here.

Its interesting that the green with black bands became the standard British cam for years afterwards (notwithstanding the shiny bronze green years!).

You may be onto something with photo 4: it looks like DND32033 on the bumper by the way, as it is definitely the mickey mouse ears cam pattern. It also has a civi licence plate- GGU 5??. British plate experts should be able to ID it for you as they have detailed records of all plates back to the start of plates... you know what I mean!

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