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Old 10-05-12, 13:36
Phil Waterman Phil Waterman is offline
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Default Very Astute

Hi Bob

You hit the nail on the head, revising the instrument panel based on what I have learned is one of the the things I wanted to refine in the design.

Things like putting all the electrical components and gauges to one side to cut down on accidental short circuits. Along with making the instrument panel supports strong enough that the stand can be pushed around by pushing on it. The radiator supports (2nd generation) is strong enough to easily push the stand around. Being able to remove the instrument panel completely and quickly also makes cleaning of the engine or painting easier.

The general layout also accommodates being able to remove the oil pan or head from the engine while the engine is on the stand.

Your question about the rear engine support is also one of those things that has gone through several generations to reach a version that will easily take either version of the rear engine mounts used on the 216 as well as the later engine mount design of the 235 or 261.

The test stand is also intended to take the Ford V8 though I have not tried putting one of those on it yet.

One of the other things that I have found is that the engine stand also works quite nicely for moving HUP bodies around on the shop floor when used in pairs.

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Old 11-05-12, 02:47
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Default If you had ......

.... a spare CMP frame....one beyond restoration..... would you consider cutting out the front section and mounting on a spare traielr axle with small tires.

The frame is ready set to take any Chev 6 cyl.
...........easily supports a rad (CMP or others )
................access all around......
......and all at a nice height to work on....
.......... easy to manoeuvre around on rough ground or move outside the barn.

Don't want to keep all the heavy springs and axle casting....maybe two stub trailer hubs and 12 inch tires.... open in the centre for oil pan access.

I have the spare frame....only the front part is any good. would cut off leaving the T case cross member support. With a large 8 or 10 inch swivel third wheel could be moved by hand on the barn floor...... hitched to the tractor I can easily move it to the back field when not in use.

My main concern is having the engine higher off the ground for the old guys who work in the barn.... yet wide enough not to be tippy.

With the small tires at the 1/3 point from the front it would be easier than bending over the CMP tires.

I like the idea of a removable instrument panel.... for painting as you says but also to ease engine installation and safe storage when the stand is in the back field..... same for the battery tray.....and removable plastic fuel tank from an outboard motor.

Maybe it's time I put all my late night ideas to a practical assembly model.

Still wish you lived closer.... the two of us could be dangerous !!!!!

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Old 18-05-12, 00:26
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Default Update on engine test stand drawings

Hi Guys

The drawings are nearly done along with narrative of what I've learned, should be posting them shortly.

Sorry it is taking this long but I have to choose between working in the shop or sitting in front of the computer. You guessed it the shop is winning.

Bob- Is correct the front section of an old frame makes and excellent test stand. I went the smaller purpose build unit because I'm tight on space to store engines so the test stand bases do double duty for testing engines and for storing engines.

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Old 23-05-12, 02:57
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Default Hottest Days of the Year - So Far!

Saturday and Sunday were hot days at the barn. The mercury hit plus 30oC on both days, so activities were limited to small party tasks. On Saturday Bob worked on the tractor's power steering, Grant worked on his truck, which is now parked in the front of the barn undergoing its transformation. I decided that Club HUP needed a new roof.

Prior to getting on with the work, we got a visit from Guy Vapeur who was in a very good mood - in fact he had a spring in his step. Guy happened upon a supply of medium tension springs that we may put to use as replacement springs for CMP seats. As well, Guy discussed a Chorehorse discovery he had made. Bob filled in all of the details relating to the mighty Chorehorse. After some small chit-chat, Guy headed back up the road.

The three of us decided it was time to go to lunch. I still get a kick out of the looks on the face of the diners at the Rockland Bistro when the three of us saunter into the restaurant covered in CMP dirt. We tip well, so we are tolerated by the staff.

Back at the barn Grant worked on his drive shafts, while Bob carried on knocking together boxes. I recently got a HLVW (that's how the Canadian Army spells "big truck") tarp from Greg Wright (The Wright Stuff Surplus) that now resides atop of my Quebec garage (AKA Club HUP). That wrapped up the day.

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1- Grant staying in the shade
2- Grant's truck
3- Guy and Bob discuss Chorehorses and springs
4- HLVW tarp makes a great garage roof
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Old 23-05-12, 03:23
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Default Sunny Sunday

Another hot day at the barn. Bob finished up some of his flower boxes and then took the tractor for a ride. Grant did some metal work on is truck's nose, and just for fun, he decided to take out some aggression on a defenceless CMP tire. I decided that the weeds around the shelters and the wagon lines needed taming.

The recent good weather saw the dandelions go nuts. Fields of yellow could be seen around the barn. It was fun knocking them down, but I think a few escaped. While clearing the weeds, I leaned against my 45HUP shelter and was surprised that the side panel of the shelter gave way with little resistance. It had to be replaced. So, a center section of modular tent was laced to the horizontal bars to form a new wall. I think we use this tentage for everything except for the use for which it was designed.

The high humidity and temperature spelled an early finish for me, and I left the boys back at the barn to their tasks. Ottawa temperatures are never "normal". Too cold in the winter, and too damned hot in the summer (and we are not even there yet!!!). At least you don't have to shovel sunshine.

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2 -Bob screwing around
3 -Le Artiste admiring his handiwork
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Old 23-05-12, 12:06
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Default 30 Degree temps

Come on guys! When it gets to 30 degrees here it's just delightful. Sometimes goes over 40 in Summer, with himidity that makes even your eyeballs perspire

It's you brand of COLD that we couldn't deal with here in Australia!! Well, not in Queensland anyway.

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Old 23-05-12, 17:44
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Default Bob and Hair!

For a brief minute there I thought Bob had joined the hair club for men... seen from above, that brown ball cap looked like he had sprouted a brand new growth!

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