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Old 30-04-12, 01:15
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Interesting input here, especially WRT the "deuce-and-a-half" type vehicles.

I have been driving, instructing and testing students on the MLVW since it was introduced c.1982, both in the military and, now, as a contract employee.

I don't have a Z endorsement on my provincial license, yet the official MTO air brake manual states that "You must have an air brake endorsement on your driver's licence to drive a vehicle with air-over-hydraulic brakes in Ontario". So it seems that the Z requirement was ignored in this case.

I do have the air brake certificate from the military, but that isn't recognized by the MTO, yet the $300.00 civilian course is recognized by the military.

On our own time, a few of us instructors started the MSVS conversion course, with air brake endorsement on my 404s. Part way through the course, with road time in already, we were told that without DZ on our civvie licence, we could not proceed. So here it seems that the Z requirement was enforced.

If you can muddle your way through all of the above, you'll perhaps realize why I'm asking a great big ... WTF?
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