M38A1 winch

Phil Waterman · #1 22-03-12, 23:49

Hi All

One of the guys in our MV Club has found some winches for the M38 believed to by the military version. No other details yet available but will keep you posted.

Cheers Phil

SteveJ · #2 23-03-12, 00:35

I had a 200 series 8000 lb Ramsey winch mounted in my M38 in an angle iron frame. It fit clean but the engagement lever had to be switched to the front side or it rubbed against the grill. the fairlead for it was bolted to the top of the bumper. No extension was required. One of the difficulties is that with the normal ujoints available when the steering was turned to lock. From what I remember to the left the steering bellcrank and the ujoint would touch slightly. (thats why those slim military ujoints are so nice) It was not unlivable at the time as long as you knew and only was bothersome when snowplowing.

Originally I had the koeinig PTO which as Rob stated earlier was more difficult to mount and tended to thump the bottom of the floorpan once in awhile when you came off the throttle as it had very little clearance. It was solid though and worked fine. The exhaust had to be modified to clear the PTO and winch driveshafts. After that I installed the ramsey PT1 F which drove front and back. It fit much better but the exhaust still had to be modified.

The final answer with some patience is the Ramsey 105A PTO and the Ramsey 73A winch. (model 50 or 50R as an assembly) Designed for the M38 or A1 no modification is required and bolts in place in no time. It is an excellent setup though very hard and expensive to come by.

The 105 A PTO on my jeep has a triple row pulley attached to the rear flange for driving bed mounted accessories (welder/ generator) up through the floorpan. ive never seen a military aplication of this using the rear flange to drive something off the back of the jeep.

rob love · #3 23-03-12, 01:20

Nice looking setup Steve.

I have had the winches in the past, but these days the stuff seems harder to find. I have been piecing my setup together for a couple years now. Still looking for the hanger assy at the bellhousing, the rear shaft, and the winch itself. I have a couple of the military PTOs, the winch mounting bracket, one shaft with U joints, and the floor PTO lockout assy.

SteveJ · #4 24-03-12, 02:38

Thanks Rob

I was lucky with mine. The original winch had been on my list of wants for a while. A few years ago I was buying some M38 parts from a gentleman in Edmonton and he asked me if I was looking for anything else. I kind of jokingly mentioned that I would like a winch. He said Oh! Ive got one of those. I ended up with the hanger bearing, the shafts, the winch and the mount. The winch still had the ADD oil tag on it. The PTO came later from a guy in New York and I ended up paying almost as much for it alone as I did for the rest of the setup but figured id better bite the bullet and get it or I might not see another. Now for any of that stuff the price is through the roof compared to what i paid for my setup.