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The point I am making is that I believe our government places EXTRA restrictions on these vehicles. There are a few US M60's in private hands in the UK, Leopard 1's in Germany, M548's for sale to the public in the US, exportable to Canada, (all in the last 6-8 years) but the Canadian government will not sell surplus 548's here. Virtually every European nation bound by ITAR regulations has sold "home grown" and in some cases foreign vehicles, to private collectors and dealers in their own countries. But Canada will not allow AVGP's into private hands, or for that matter MLVW's. Even spares for the M113 family, automotive and running gear, can be had from surplus dealers (SECO in Georgia). I can speak from experience that most of the trouble in acquiring armour, even our former enemies armour, is from the paranoid folks in Ottawa.
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31-01-12, 04:06
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I did a little looking at whom was the hauler for the intended scrap salvage man and it was a hauler hired in Montreal by Ottawa for the purpose of moving the vehicles to their new destination...along with hauling sheets of aluminum for Columbia remtec based out of Montreal as well as Vancouver BC.
makes one wonder how a hauler can haul for the government and along on the same trailer there are two separate shippments? I would think the governmnet is paying to haul the extra sheets and the company is getting it for free? I know this is off topic now as the thread has gone very political. being from the west the other side of the rockies we often get forgotten way out here. On the museum question what about the other Museum...The AV Roe...the one that has to beg The Canadian public to vote yes on television to stay open...what is happening with that? Any talk of amalgomation of the two? Never having been to any of them as it is waaaaay across our vast country and costs less to fly to Europe than Toronto I am not able to find the extra cash to take in any of the museums that we seem to have. Our little museum is strugling to saty a float right here in the now defunct Chilliwack former CFB base. The only thing keeping it alive are donations from people want ting to veiw it and volunteers that help out as I do. All the vehicles are privatley owned so the government can not regualte that...for now.
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01-02-12, 00:24
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I agree with you. I was just laying out the policy as I know it, which I too agree is overly excessive. But what can we do about it? I suppose one could write one's MP and complain, but I think it will be as useful as p*ssing into the wind. It would appear from this thread that if you really want a M548 or M113 and can legally import them from the states, then I guess the problem is solved. (But be careful, the paranoids are watching!)
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My MP is a Liberal and a usless one at that! Writting to him calling him or dropping by the office is an effort in frustration and wasted energy! yes pissing in the wind but at least you got to piss! heh heh.
Well maybe they will be melted down to be used for something other than beer cans? I thought maybe because of Alcan up the coast but don't think so. More like to be sent to China as part of our so called trade agreements. We send, they take, send back, we pay!
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To clarify, SECO told me M548's were available, NO M113's, components for the M113 family have been surplussed as well. This was 1 1/2 years ago, before I purchased the BMP.Don't get me wrong guys, I believe the present government has done good things for our military. I am just really frustrated that our small but very capable fraternity is not allowed to preserve some of Canada's military history. I know that the CWM is tasked with that job, but people like us do a very good job preserving and promoting our military. Just attend any "official" parade or function, and the bulk of the equipment will be from private hands. The policies being enforced now I believe were probably laid down 15-16 years ago. I was actually on a list to acquire two Lynx after they were taken out of service, then was notified when I was fifth from the top, that policy was now that only bonafide military museums could get functional vehicles. I have been approaching this policy from every angle I can think of, but like Rob says, I have been getting wet!
Perry Last edited by Perry Kitson; 02-02-12 at 02:27. Reason: clarification on M113's
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