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[Matthew Reid]

Ya it seems that Alberta Sask and possibly Man (have no idea about Man) Motor Vehicles have basically washed thier hands of tracking ownership and are leaving it up to the purchasing individual to insure they are buying the vehicle from the legal owner and that there are no leins on it.

If you do buy a vehicle in Alberta then registered a vehicle that has a lein on it. So sad to bad, you failed to do your due diligence to insure it was free and clear when you bought it.

Any issues in regards to legal ownership become a civil or criminal matter for the courts and or the RCMP/Local PD to resolve. This helps keep the operating cost of Motor Vehicles as low as possible and the prosses of vehicle registration as quick and efficaint as it reasonably can be, thus keeping operating costs down and thus saving tax dollars.

Anybody can make something complicated and fortunetly there are still a couple provinces in the country that keep things as simple as possible when it comes to vehicle registration.

This fortunetly does work out for individuals trying to register old and oddball vehicles in some of the other provinces.

As some Provinces Motor Vehicle Depts will see an Alberta Bill of sale and run with that and ask for no other documentation as they know they are not likly going get anything else but that piece of paper. They can not exactly ask for a title or permit of ownership or registration of ownership as Alberta does not issue any of those.

The same rules apply to Alberta as Sask for Provincial inspections, a vehicle that has never been registered in Alberta previosly or was last registered out of province or it has been so many years since it was last registered in Alberta it has rolled out of the system, the vehicle must have an out province inspection before registration will be issued.
After that it will never need another provincial inspection ever.
Unless the registration again laspes for so long it rolls off the system.

So additonally there is no record of inspection on a vehicles history with Motor Vehicals unless it was required to have an out of province inspection.

But we do not suffer the serious corrsion issues here as some of the other provinces and do not have near the number of vehciles on the road.


The insurance company's here may request a superficial road worthyness inspection once a vehicle hits ten to 12 year old and it is being newly insured with that carrier.

My uncles truck (an 89 F250) has been continously registered and insured in Alberta since new. Just last year after hitting 21 years old and never have been inspected his insurance company asked if he would not mind getting it inspected.
This was not even a demand but an optional request to keep it in a lower insurance bracket as opposed to not being inspected.


Matthew

[Michel D]

Thanks for all your help! I will try to plate the truck as soon as possible.

[Grant Bowker]

A PDF version of the form Peter put up earlier is attached, hopefully someone will be able to use the form or at least use it as a model if it suits the legal process in your area. If you find transcription errors in the file, please let me know so I can adjust it.

Peter, you also made reference to an appraisal form that was accepted in your area. If you think it is likely to be of use to others, can you send me a copy that can be posted similar to the affadavit form?

[Grant Bowker]

The Ontario appraisal form that Peter referred to can be found at:
http://www.rev.gov.on.ca/en/forms/rst/pdf/1159.pdf
The french version is at:
http://www.rev.gov.on.ca/fr/forms/rst/pdf/1159.pdf
In case you can't get the links to work for you a copy is attached.
The form can be completed on computer, then printed if you wish. One gotcha that I noticed is that they want the appraisal done within 60 days of purchase, so don't delay until you are ready to move on to licensing to get an appraisal. Otherwise you might have to sell to a friend and then repurchase it for the same value just to have a recently dated bill of sale to be able to get an appraisal. Seems crazy.