Need help: M151a2 CAF Europe 74-22375

Scott Bentley · #1 19-08-11, 13:57

Well I managed to get on EDR, albeit the stripped down version. I still need to get my workstation upgraded so I can get access to the better version.

Heres what I did find:

Your M151A2 Serial Number 46619 (taken from your picture of the Dash Dataplate) is actually CFR 74-22452. It was demilled at CFB Lahr on 31 March 1987.

CFR 74-22375 would have been Serial Number 46207. That one was also demilled at CFB Lahr in the same timeframe.

I scrolled through a bunch of the M151A2 data from that patch of CFRs. Seems all the CFE MUTTs were demilled in Lahr. Without the better version of the program, I can't actually see what Units that the Jeeps actually served with in CFE, but rather where they were scrapped.

Once I get the update done, i'll dig up the Unit info.

Scotty

Gaspare · #2 19-08-11, 19:10

So now i understand what Perini told me about id plates being exchanged between the cars by the military maintenance....

He meant:
when he rewelded the cars,

he
made some mess with the id plates.....

I hope to find something definitive about mine....

Gaspare · #3 26-08-11, 22:56

Hallo Scotty,

Perini sent the wrong label.

I called him and he promised fix the mistake so i should have to receive the Ziebart label in a few days.

Scott Bentley · #4 27-08-11, 02:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gaspare

Hallo Scotty,

Perini sent the wrong label.

I called him and he promised fix the mistake so i should have to receive the Ziebart label in a few days.

I will gladly purchase that Dataplate from you also.

Scotty

Casey B · #5 27-08-11, 17:00

Hi Scotty not sure if I posted it correctly but on one of your other threads re histories M38A1's I am the very last post there...I think? Hope it shows up and that you may have a chance to see it... Thanks in advance Casey

Gaspare · #6 07-09-11, 23:39

Hallo scotty,
Perini said me that he is looking for the Ziebart tag,
but due that it is a never asked item he need time to find one.
I hope to receive it soon.

Scott Bentley · #7 07-09-11, 23:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gaspare

Hallo scotty,
Perini said me that he is looking for the Ziebart tag,
but due that it is a never asked item he need time to find one.
I hope to receive it soon.

Understood. No worries here. I will gladly buy that Dataplate you posted the picture of as well. I need one of those also.

Scotty

NORTH-SHORE(CANADA) · #8 02-04-23, 16:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gaspare

Hallo Scotty,

Perini sent the wrong label.

I called him and he promised fix the mistake so i should have to receive the Ziebart label in a few days.

Hi,
where i could get one of those data plate

thanks
eric

Scott Bentley · #9 23-09-11, 15:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by armybuck041

Well I managed to get on EDR, albeit the stripped down version. I still need to get my workstation upgraded so I can get access to the better version.

Heres what I did find:

Your M151A2 Serial Number 46619 (taken from your picture of the Dash Dataplate) is actually CFR 74-22452. It was demilled at CFB Lahr on 31 March 1987.

CFR 74-22375 would have been Serial Number 46207. That one was also demilled at CFB Lahr in the same timeframe.

I scrolled through a bunch of the M151A2 data from that patch of CFRs. Seems all the CFE MUTTs were demilled in Lahr. Without the better version of the program, I can't actually see what Units that the Jeeps actually served with in CFE, but rather where they were scrapped.

Once I get the update done, i'll dig up the Unit info.

Scotty

Heres the other info from the better database. In essence, it looks like you're A2 spent its entire life in Germany. It was disposed with approx 67000 miles (or Kms depending on wether or not someone converted the odometer reading). Details on the modifications can be found in the CFR request thread.

Holding Unit History

CFR No Departure Arrival HUIC Unit
22452* 24-Apr-86 29-Jun-84 1850* 2 PPCLI
22452* 29-Jun-84 01-Jan-74 1576* 3BN THE ROYAL CANADIAN REGIMENT

Modification History

Modification History of CFR : 22452

Modification No Modification Complete Date Completed
30010000CF003* NO INFORMATION AVAILABLE ON THIS MODIFICATION NO
30105000CF001* NO INFORMATION AVAILABLE ON THIS MODIFICATION YES
30105000CF003* NO INFORMATION AVAILABLE ON THIS MODIFICATION YES
30105000CF004* NO INFORMATION AVAILABLE ON THIS MODIFICATION YES
30105000CF005* NO INFORMATION AVAILABLE ON THIS MODIFICATION YES
30105000CF006* NO INFORMATION AVAILABLE ON THIS MODIFICATION YES
30105000CF007* NO INFORMATION AVAILABLE ON THIS MODIFICATION YES
30105000CF008* NO INFORMATION AVAILABLE ON THIS MODIFICATION YES
30105000CF012* NO INFORMATION AVAILABLE ON THIS MODIFICATION YES
30105000CF013* NO INFORMATION AVAILABLE ON THIS MODIFICATION YES
30105000CF016* NO INFORMATION AVAILABLE ON THIS MODIFICATION YES
30105000CF017* NO INFORMATION AVAILABLE ON THIS MODIFICATION YES

Work Order Details
CFR Number : 22452

Format Work Order Number SS Date Completed CIN HUIC Usage Qty Parts ($) Rebuild
6 L52004 29-May-85 956* 1850* 66717 1 441 NO
6 L51004 13-Mar-85 956* 1850* 65774 1 84 NO
6 L41004 18-Jan-84 956* 1576* 59436 1 172 NO
6 L34004 06-Dec-83 956* 1576* 59308 1 674 NO
6 L33004 23-Sep-83 956* 1576* 56861 1 25 NO
6 L21198 08-Jun-82 956* 1576* 50556 4 334 NO
6 L21004 26-Mar-82 956* 1576* 47352 1 217 NO
6 L14004 23-Nov-81 956* 1576* 45131 3 188 NO
6 L13004 03-Sep-81 956* 1576* 44115 1 26 NO
6 L12004 31-May-81 956* 1576* 42131 3 206 NO
6 L11004 17-Mar-81 956* 1576* 38639 1 13 NO
6 L04004 17-Nov-80 956* 1576* 38449 1 50 NO
6 L00665 07-Dec-79 956* 1576* 30256 1 49 NO
5 LW0429 31-Mar-78 986* 2208* 0 1 0 NO
6 L00901 31-Dec-77 956* 1576* 14565 1 5 NO
6 L00902 30-Nov-77 956* 2208* 0 1 0 NO
6 L00641 14-Sep-77 956* 2208* 0 1 0 NO
6 L00033 21-Feb-77 956* 2208* 0 1 0 NO

Scott Bentley · #10 23-09-11, 15:06

For the back half, also a lifelong Germany A2. Slightly less mileage with approx 60000 on the clock. For what its worth, its not completely unusal to have mis-matched halves. There are plenty of others floating around here in Canada. If the Gas Tank and seats still fit and line up then its safe to say that the original geometry has been retained.

Holding Unit History

CFR No Departure Arrival HUIC Unit
22375* 25-Jun-86 01-Jan-74 2108* 4 SERVICE BATTALION

Modification History

Modification History of CFR : 22375

Modification No Modification Complete Date Completed
30010000CF003* NO INFORMATION AVAILABLE ON THIS MODIFICATION YES
30105000CF001* NO INFORMATION AVAILABLE ON THIS MODIFICATION YES
30105000CF003* NO INFORMATION AVAILABLE ON THIS MODIFICATION YES
30105000CF004* NO INFORMATION AVAILABLE ON THIS MODIFICATION YES
30105000CF005* NO INFORMATION AVAILABLE ON THIS MODIFICATION YES
30105000CF006* NO INFORMATION AVAILABLE ON THIS MODIFICATION YES
30105000CF007* NO INFORMATION AVAILABLE ON THIS MODIFICATION YES
30105000CF008* NO INFORMATION AVAILABLE ON THIS MODIFICATION YES
30105000CF012* NO INFORMATION AVAILABLE ON THIS MODIFICATION YES
30105000CF013* NO INFORMATION AVAILABLE ON THIS MODIFICATION YES
30105000CF016* NO INFORMATION AVAILABLE ON THIS MODIFICATION YES
30105000CF017* NO INFORMATION AVAILABLE ON THIS MODIFICATION YES

Work Order Details
CFR Number : 22375
Format Work Order Number SS Date Completed CIN HUIC Usage Qty Parts ($) Rebuild
6 LA3820 13-Nov-84 990* 2108* 60280 1 182 NO
6 LA3496 14-May-84 990* 2108* 57293 1 220 NO
6 L07280 30-Jun-83 990* 2108* 49848 1 20 NO
6 L 1135 23-Sep-81 990* 2108* 42369 1 28 NO
6 LA6404 30-Nov-79 990* 2108* 27206 1 5 NO
6 LA1804 12-Mar-79 990* 2108* 22338 1 82 NO
6 L01418 30-Sep-78 990* 2108* 20585 1 0 NO
6 L01218 30-Jun-78 990* 2108* 17283 1 0 NO
5 LV0415 14-Jan-78 986* 2208* 0 1 0 NO
6 L01271 30-Sep-77 990* 2108* 9211 1 196 NO

Hanno Spoelstra · #11 23-09-11, 15:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by armybuck041

For the back half, also a lifelong Germany A2. Slightly less mileage with approx 60000 on the clock. For what its worth, its not completely unusal to have mis-matched halves. There are plenty of others floating around here in Canada.

The ones ending up in Italy are notorius for being mismatched. A1 fronts mated to A2 back halves etc. I'd say it's a miracle two Canadian halves were mated

H.

Gaspare · #12 24-09-11, 22:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by armybuck041

For the back half, also a lifelong Germany A2. Slightly less mileage with approx 60000 on the clock. For what its worth, its not completely unusal to have mis-matched halves. There are plenty of others floating around here in Canada. If the Gas Tank and seats still fit and line up then its safe to say that the original geometry has been retained.

Hallo Mark,
Many more thanks for all these informations but how to read all those numbers?

Iam still stressing Perini for the Ziebart tag, he said that he still has some "somewhere in the storage" and to call him again the next week (3rd time he said me so)
and as i said as soon i will receive it i will send it to you together with the other tag.
In the while i wait for it, would you @mail me a shipping address?

Scott Bentley · #13 24-09-11, 23:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gaspare

Hallo Mark,
Many more thanks for all these informations but how to read all those numbers?

Iam still stressing Perini for the Ziebart tag, he said that he still has some "somewhere in the storage" and to call him again the next week (3rd time he said me so)
and as i said as soon i will receive it i will send it to you together with the other tag.
In the while i wait for it, would you @mail me a shipping address?

If I recall correctly, on the first page of the "CFR Request Thread", most of the above codes are explained.

I'll PM you my shipping info. I hope you will give me a Paypal Address to compensate you for this.

Thanks

Scotty

Gaspare · #14 30-10-11, 07:51

Hallo Scotty,
I received the Ziebart tag today and i will send it together with the other one to you on monday, unfortunately it miss the down right corner but Perini said me that it is the only one he has been able to find.

Scott Bentley · #15 31-10-11, 16:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gaspare

Hallo Scotty,
I received the Ziebart tag today and i will send it together with the other one to you on monday, unfortunately it miss the down right corner but Perini said me that it is the only one he has been able to find.

That's fantastic! No worries about the corner.
Thanks for this.