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Old 22-05-11, 16:28
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I think they are leather. Are they the accordian style things that fit around the rod coming out the back of the drum?
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Old 22-05-11, 17:26
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hi jordan, no these are for stoping dirt/mud/water getting into the brake drums, check out the illustartion, i will post up a picture this week.

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Old 22-05-11, 17:38
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I don't have a parts manual available Jordan, but I suspect Kevin is talking about the asbestos strip that runs between the backing plate and the drum.

I would suggest that perhaps the modern fiberglass rope you buy for the doors of wood stoves would work in place of the original.
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Old 22-05-11, 21:35
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Thats a blo_dy good suggestion. Yes Kevin, it is asbestos.
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Old 25-05-11, 20:14
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for what its worth on the T16 I did replace the seal. It is a square section gland material that I was able to source from a bearing and pump specialist. It is so tight though that its hard to turn the drum now. I guess it will wear in though.
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Old 27-05-11, 19:34
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Hi All,

One thing comes to my mind regarding this seal. Do we really need it with the careful use we make of our machines? I for one never go in water or mud.
This week I have removed one brake drum assembly because of a failed brake cilinder and have not seen a seal in the backing plate. There was no dirt or rust in the drum only a lot of brake dust on all parts. Pitty that the absence of the seal does not make the brake dust disappear.

The failed brake cilinder was a very nicely made reproduction but had one flaw. The pull rod was made of two pieces that had a threaded connection (6mm) and a small tig weld. Both broke off cleanly.

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Old 27-05-11, 20:03
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i used grease impregnated felt on mine which should work well enough but i haven't run it yet so i couldn't say for sure that it's ok.
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Old 29-05-11, 12:56
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It appears from your photo that the wedges are too soft. The rollers have pushed into them . This would make the load on your pull rod much bigger, as the rollers would be trying to climb out of the trench rather than climb a steady ramp.
I think the pull rod might be a weakness in the design and have seen a couple of broken ones. The pull rod I mean is not shown in your pictures.

Rick, your grease might creep to your linings.
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