21st. Army group Vehicle signs

[Marc - Belgium]

Here's another one in use (106 Coy RASC).

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I found it here : http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellispratt/page5/

[Keith Brooker]

Here is a link to the Signs in the book. Any one have a scan of the front cover.
http://www.ww2talk.com/index.php?thr...al-book.87862/

[Dan Martel]

Originally Posted by Keith Brooker

Any one have a scan of the front cover.

The original poster of this thread, Blackpowder44 aka John Forsey, also posted on The British & Commonwealth Military Badge Forum. John asked another member of that forum to scan and post the images from this book on there. Here is the front and back cover:

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[Bruce Parker (RIP)]

Framed 21st AG and another just because (can you spot the error on the second one?). Trivia for those who may not know, the 21st Army Group got that number because it was made up of the 2nd British Army and the 1st Canadian Army, hence 21.

[Keith Brooker]

The 21st. Army Group book shows all the vehicle formation signs that are all RASC, CRASC, Cdn RASC and a few from Belgium, there are no Div, formation signs that are on the your front cover that are in this book. I just thought they might have added RASC Ect to the front cover. Thanks for adding this cover .
Keith

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Fascinating stuff, these signs are new to me.

I'd like another one to the mix, would this windmill sign fit in this subject or not?

"1680 ARTILLERY PLATOON RASC (LIGHT) IN NORTH WEST EUROPE 1944 - 1945.

Driver Arthur Pratley beside his Ford three ton truck, platoon vehicle lines, Hakenfelderstrasse, Berlin, Summer 1945. Note the unit logo (the windmill) on the cab door."

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Source: https://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/i...ject/205039844

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by Hanno Spoelstra

"1680 ARTILLERY PLATOON RASC (LIGHT) IN NORTH WEST EUROPE 1944 - 1945.

I did not know this unit, a quick search yielded the following:

"The January 2011 Edition of The Military Heraldry Society’s Formation Sign recorded that the windmill vehicle sign illustrated appears in a privately produced history 'The Windmill Boys: The Story of the 1680 Artillery Platoon RASC (Light)'. The Platoon was formed on 11th January 1944 as 1680 Artillery Platoon, RASC (Light) upon a cadre from 739 Coy, RASC part of 22 Transport Column. The Coy also commanded 1673, 1678, 1679, 1686 and 1687 Platoons. Each Platoon comprised five Transport Sections plus HQ Section. In August 1944 1680 Platoon were attached to 147 (Essex Yeomanry) Field Regt, RA. Two months later the Platoon adopted the unofficial windmill vehicle sign shown on the authority of its OC in order to make the Platoon vehicles more recognisable.

A marking with a similar theme appears in the pamphlet, part of which is illustrated in the earlier answer, the note on the back confirming it was printed by 21 AG’s Printing and Stationery Services. It shows over eighty signs attributed to RASC units. It is not explained where or how they were used but as the photo shows they probably appeared on vehicle doors and were approved at unit level.

The windmill sign shown is attributed to 710 (General Transport) Company. The other two shown are for 780 (Corps HQ Car) Coy, the boar’s head on a background of wartime RASC tactical marking colours suggesting they worked for 30 Corps and 39 (GT) Company – which obviously had a connection with 3rd Infantry Division"

Source: https://www.britishbadgeforum.com/fo...226#post238226

They operated in Holland:

"A group photograph of some of the men in the unit taken at Platoon Headquarters, "De Elshof", Berkenhof, south of Hatert, Holland, at the end of Operation Market Garden, 23 September 1944. The men are: back row left to right, "Steve" Stephenson, Len Haslam, Vic Robbins (water dutyman), Cyril Lambert (the units oldest man) and George Drinkwater."

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Source: https://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/i...ject/205039833


One of the platoon's Sergeants is in fact buried in Leopoldsburg, Belgium:
"OWEN, Sjt. FRANCIS ENGLAND, T/5618131. 1680 Artillery Platoon, R.A.S.C. 10th September, 1944. Age 30. Son of Francis England Owen and Isabel Belinda Owen, of Combe Martin, Devon. IV. B. 1. "
Source: http://anguline.co.uk/Free/Leopoldsburg.pdf


Fought their way through Germany:
"Don-R Eddie Edmond (front of truck), Corporal Aubrey Harrin and Driver Ted Brinton (who was slightly injured ) immediately after the attack upon 1680 Platoon in Kleve (Cleve). See photograph HU 66247. Note the Fox's head formation sign on the rear of the lorry, indicating that 1680 Platoon were part of the 8th Armoured Brigade."
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Source: https://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/i...ject/205039836

"A photograph of Ackerstrasse looking north east towards Kleve (Cleve) town centre showing the debris and damage caused by an attack upon 1680 Platoon vehicles. "One of the tilt frames outlined in the distance is from the vehicle used as a guard-room where Guard Commander, Lance Corporal Buckle was killed. To the right of the two burnt out three tonners are the remains of the water truck (Driver Arthur Pratley) and a 15 cwt truck. The buildings on the far right were the officers billets, the cookhouse being on the near corner. The debris in the foreground is from the destroyed signals truck.""
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Source: https://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/i...ject/205039835


And ended the war in Berlin:
"Three German children stand next to the platoon HQ sign (the Windmill) the middle sign depicts the Berlin garrison roundel. Taken in Spandau, Berlin, summer 1945."
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Source: https://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/i...ject/205039841

"Vehicles of the unit parked on the Hakenfeldstrasse, Berlin, Summer 1945."
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Source:https://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/i...ject/205039842