w/s no.19 fitted to M3 Stuart light tank

colin jones · #1 28-12-10, 22:49

Hi Tony, good to here you moving along with your stuart. How about some pictures and hows your valentine going.
Colin.

carl brown · #2 29-12-10, 22:38

Hi guys. I have been following the thread with interest and wanted to input what i thought. I have Phill's old M3 here in the UK ( hope you are well Phill ?) and am slowly restoring it. Its been on hold for a while due to work commitments but will come together slowly over the next year or two.

Whilst I havn't found the brass 19 set installation plate that phill refers to, I have attached a copy of an M3 stowage diagram extracted from Hunnicutts Stuart book. This really backs up the picture that Des has provided showing that the 19 set was mounted on a tray at the back of the hull. This definitely makes sense if the hull has the fixed 30 cals in the sponsons however the stowage diagram shows it as not having the fixed 30 cals!

It is possible that the wireless was relocated to the sponson on later M3 vehicles, but you have to ask the question why they would loose most of the 30 cal ammo stowage just to relocate the wireless ? If it was relocated, where did the 30 cal ammo get stowed ? In Phills old M3 there are two brackets on the firewall bulkhead just about where the 19 set would be on the tray in Des's picture, and these take what appears to be a 37mm stowage box/ready round box. Was the radio relocated to the sponson to allow for more 37mm stowage ? I don't know the answer either.

I have attached a picture of a friends M3 in Oz showing how he has installed the radio in his M3. Could this be the layout we all think it should be for a later M3 ?

drcowie · #3 29-12-10, 23:05

Tony, have you got a copy of TM11-2713 ? On page 20 it shows the No19 set sitting on some frame above the US base (for earlier set) - see attachment. I have no more info than this.
For interest, the US setup in the driver's side sponson is on a FT-237 mount as per my pics.
Hi Carl - (all parts installed)

chamberlain9g · #4 31-12-10, 22:19

G'day Colin,Carl and Des
Thanks for the replies and Infomation,when I get some help and camera organised I will post some photos of the Stuart.The Valentine is waiting in the long line of projects.
Cheers Tony

Philliphastings · #5 13-01-11, 04:06

Carl - I am pretty sure that plate was still attached to the inside of my Stuart, if not then loose with the spares ?

Also there was at least one very badly rusted example of that radio table as fitted to the early M3 with the spares, although I admit I was not certain exactly what it was for at the time.

The Museum Stuart still has the radio plate inside the hull, though some B%$#@&d had ripped the data plate out and stolen it many years ago.

I could try to photograph the plate some time but it's dark in there - and there are spiders...

Cheers

Phill

Philliphastings · #6 13-01-11, 04:10

Carl your stowage diagram would have been a godsend when I was fitting out the Stuart for display. I now realise that some of the small bins I have picked up over the years (and still have) are for the water and oil bottles etc in the Stuart.

Cheers

Phill

carl brown · #7 13-01-11, 10:29

Phill

I'll go through the parts again to see what I can see. I did sort most of it out and its all racked up on shelves. A picture of the radio table in the Museum Stuart would be really good if possible.
There are a few bits soon to leave Bills place to come here, including the remaining few track blocks. Any chance the oil and water bottle stowage bins could come as well ?