FV603 Saracen

[maple_leaf_eh]

Originally Posted by Alex Blair

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Then again as usual,because it was Canadian..the fastest in the world..Like the Canadian Avro Arrow..also the best and fastest jet fighter in the world, was scrapped ... because our lickspittle, mangy running dog, sniveling, grovelling, no balls politicians ... were bought out

... and blackmailed and bought out our Canadian running dog lackie leaders, and our rotten to the core government scrapped the Arrow in '58 ... and stole all our talent to form NASA..

Bob ... you had to get me started..didn't you...I was trying to be pleasant this Christmas..but hate has a long memory.
Anyway that is how it is ... when you have politicians and lawyers running your country ... I would rather have murderers ... child molesters and drug dealers running the country...

Alex, do you have an opinion you wish to share with the class? Go ahead, don't keep it inside.

[Lynn Eades]

That other A.B. (Alexander Graham Bell) isn't he the guy who stole all those good ideas from Tessler?

[Ed Storey]

Here is an image of a Saracen that was sitting outside of Bovington Tank Museum in 1984.

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e3...aracencopy.jpg

[Robin Craig]

Reading my latest library acquisition, "Alvis Saracen Family" by Bill Munro, thoughtfully given to me by my 6 year old god daughter for Christmas, I read about early cold weather testing here in Canada.

It was carried out between November 1956 and March 1957 in Fort Churchill, Manitoba.

The book makes reference to the vehicle sent being 05 BB 43.

This may be the one in the Science and Tech museum collection.

Ed Storey, may I please use your picture to post in another forum please?

R

[rob love]

Early in the thread there was mention that this Saracen may have had radar equipment mounted on top of it. I recall, in the manual "New equipment for the Cdn Army", a small red booklet from the early 60s, that there was an entry for radar equipment mounted on a vehicle. The early version of the manual had the radar mounted on a Bobcat, and a later version (after the cancellation of the Bobcat project) of the pamphlet showed a British vehicle (if I recall correctly) with the radar mounted on it. Does any body have this manual, and was it possibly one of these two saracens we are talking about?

It has been a few years since I saw a copy of the manual, so I may be way off to left base here.

[malcolm erik bogaert]

I had a similar saracen it had been fitted with the Roberts radar System and been used in Gibraltar by an RA unit...as a pont of interest there are about 4 saracens in Montes Yard in County-Durham UK two of which are the higher command versions..cheers malcolm

[Ed Storey]

Robin:

Sure you can use the image to post on another site.

Rob:

CAMT 21-40 Characteristics of New Equipments with Notes on Their Tactical Handling and Employment (Provisional) 1962 covers the AN/MPQ 501 Canadian Counter Mortar Radar and shows it mounted on a Bobcat, FV603 and a M135CDN. I have multiple copies of this manual and not every edition has this section as these books were designed to be amended as new equipment came and went.

The image of the FV603 is heavily half-toned and shows a modified vehicle with what looks like a generator mounted on the rear left side. From what I can determine the vehicle registration number is 30BA52.

ED