Loyd Carrier

RichardT10829 · #1 06-09-10, 17:30

Paul. beautifull job this is what i love to see when it comes to engnes

DTI guage is a must for any thorough engine builder... hope mine looks as good as yours, did you replace the head studs or were the threads still ok on your originals.

well done looks awesome ! looks to be the same block as mine except mine does not have the lip on the block where the inlet mannifold sits. same prizm and triangles on the block face same 24 studs too. wonder if my block has been machined

Richie

Philliphastings · #2 07-09-10, 07:42

Brilliant work !

Cheers

Phill

paul visser · #3 07-09-10, 09:43

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Originally Posted by RichardT10829

Paul. beautifull job this is what i love to see when it comes to engnes

DTI guage is a must for any thorough engine builder... hope mine looks as good as yours, did you replace the head studs or were the threads still ok on your originals.

well done looks awesome ! looks to be the same block as mine except mine does not have the lip on the block where the inlet mannifold sits. same prizm and triangles on the block face same 24 studs too. wonder if my block has been machined

Richie

The engine came from a carrier and was restored in the early '50 by a company in holland. they stored all the engines for years. Got this one from a frind ho knows the owner's son. It's a canadian build engine but it came with the wrong camshaft (early 50' for a side mount disributor) so i had to take the engine a part again. that was a good thing becouse the valves were bad as well after all these years. Now it's in good condition and ready to go to the show.
I did not replace the head studs exept for one, they were all good.

Paul

RichardT10829 · #4 07-09-10, 16:29

yes i will have to carefully check mine to make sure the threads have not pulled. fantastic job though...I take it that engine is the 221 unit? 85hp

Richie

Lynn Eades · #5 07-09-10, 22:34

24 stud, could be either,221 or 239 .....Paul, What are those liners made of?

paul visser · #6 09-09-10, 09:53

Don't realy know what they are made of. But it's done in the '50 (they are not thik) looks like a cilinder sleeve.

Does any one know if there are diverend flywheels for the V8 flathead '32 up to '48. My '37 flywheel does not fit in the bellhousing of the block.

ajmac · #7 09-09-10, 10:49

Paul,
There were a number of change points in US V8 production as far as I know.

Original.
1937: Midterm Update. Block changes to all shell bearings, water pumps move to block from heads?
1939: Modernisation. 24 Stud block introduced with larger main bearings, Ford and Mercury split production with Mercury using a larger bore to get 3.9L rather than 3.6L.. Mercs are also more robust with redesigned internals.
1942: War Production. Power goes up from 85 to 90 BHP on Ford and 95 to 100 BHP on the Merc. The modern Distributor begins to be used, with a seperate coil and the resin cap with nine connectors sticking out - Crab Type. (That is what is going on mine)
1946: Harmonisation. Ford version dropped, only Merc 3.9L manufactured. Has redesigned distributer cap with HT leads bunched together on each side.
1949: Redesign. New distributer, new water jacket design, short bell housing, new HP Oil pump, bearings redesigned, valves and guides improved....basically THE BEST flathead, but no good for a carrier as it looks wrong!

I've no idea what Dagenham did, there was a 60BHP unit, is there a book covering British Flathead production details? I get the impression that England only produced the 3.6L and never manufactured the Merc.... we were still making the 3.6L in the early 50s for the V8 Pilot.

Loyd Engines.
I get a bit confused when it comes to loyds....
The No2 has a US manufactured Flathead which could be Ford @ 85BHP or Merc @ 95BHP, the Loyd workshop manual states that the No2 version has a 'American manufactured 95BHP engine' which would suggest that it was the Merc, but other sources state that all engines were 80 or 85BHP no matter where they were manufactured. That is why I was interested in colours as Mercs were painted Dark Blue and Fords Dark Green.

paul visser · #8 30-11-10, 12:37

YES, the engine is in the chassis. With a lot of other things to do we got the engine back on his bolts, ready to run.