Replica DND Plate!!!

Jon Skagfeld · #1 13-08-10, 10:11

Well, Eric, I can only go by what I was advised by the local PD.

I have the badge number, name and platoon number of the advising officer.

If she is misinformed, I wonder where I stand if a police car from a neighbouring jurisdiction takes a different point of view?

By no means am I trying to subvert any existing Provincial/Federal legislation.

By no means do I make any attempt to denigrate the family of Historic Vehicle owners.

I'm simply trying to display my 1971 M38A1CDN3 in the most appropriate manner possible, within the law, as interpreted to me by a police officer.

Shall I go on and describe how I stick a de-activated FN C1 into the rifle rack and tool about the town?

Alex Blair (RIP) · #2 13-08-10, 15:15

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Originally Posted by Jon Skagfeld

Well, Eric, I can only go by what I was advised by the local PD.

I have the badge number, name and platoon number of the advising officer.

If she is misinformed, I wonder where I stand if a police car from a neighbouring jurisdiction takes a different point of view?

By no means am I trying to subvert any existing Provincial/Federal legislation.

By no means do I make any attempt to denigrate the family of Historic Vehicle owners.

I'm simply trying to display my 1971 M38A1CDN3 in the most appropriate manner possible, within the law, as interpreted to me by a police officer.

Shall I go on and describe how I stick a de-activated FN C1 into the rifle rack and tool about the town?

Jon...
When the jail door slams..keep your fingers in your pockets..
"She/he told me....."
"I thought..."
and all the other excuses you can come up with ,will get you no where..
But if you let us know where you are locked up ,I will stop in and visit you when we are in the Owen Sound area,,..
Eric,like any good cop, can be a pain in the ass when he is telling us stuff we don't want to hear..but he deals with this stuff day in and day out and I would stick with his recommendations ..he is one of us and very knowledgeable when it comes to our hobby of collecting Rusty Old Trucks..being a collector himself..

Get you red shirt on,it's Friday, and get out for a Timmys..

rob love · #3 13-08-10, 15:48

A DND plate will not mean much to most civilian police, but it certainly does to the MPs. Apparently there was a case many years ago where someone bought a staff car that had the plates still on it and continued to drive it for a time with the plates. DND tightened up security wrt the plates after that. If a plate was lost or stolen, the vehicle was to be assigned a new CFR. And I have seen the MPs travel many miles to recover a plate that was inadvertently left on a vehicle and found it's way to the mil scrapyard.

The DND plate is a sign of insurance (underwriter's insurance if I recall) and technically using one is displaying a false insurance.

servicepub (RIP) · #4 13-08-10, 19:15

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Originally Posted by rob love

The DND plate is a sign of insurance (underwriter's insurance if I recall) and technically using one is displaying a false insurance.

I thought that DND, like most Government agencies, self-insured.
I agree with Eric, and others, that the use of a DND plate is inappropriate in all circumstances other than a static display (I'm not even sure that it should be on a parade vehicle as that could give the impression that it is a DND vehicle - made all that much more ambiguous when the driver is in a uniform of sorts.)
Clive

Eric B · #5 13-08-10, 20:46

Hello Folks

Thanks Rob, Alex and Clive

For those who wish to make their own informed decision pertaining to traffic law in Ontario I have attached the link to the Highway Traffic Act e-law web page.

http://www.e-laws.gov.on.ca/html/sta...es_90h08_e.htm

As I indicated earlier there are other options for Ontario licence plates than the regular issued plates, such as Year of Manufacture, Veteran and Personal plates, including a support our troop yellow ribbon. Information on these can be obtained from the Ministry of Ontario web page at.
http://www.mto.gov.on.ca/english/dan...le/index.shtml

I included the use of DND plates in a parade as this involves a closed roadway, which permits unlicenced or other vehicles to drive on the road, which normally are not permitted. No Provincial offence would take place.

Thanks
Eric

servicepub (RIP) · #6 13-08-10, 21:09

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Originally Posted by Eric B

I included the use of DND plates in a parade as this involves a closed roadway, which permits unlicenced or other vehicles to drive on the road, which normally are not permitted. No Provincial offence would take place.

But possibly a Federal offence under the National Defence Act?

Dean (Ajax) · #7 14-08-10, 14:02

I work in film and there is a place in Toronto called U B Signs they make all the plates for cars we use in Movies..they can do any plate from any State or Country from any period.

They can make cheaper "flat" plates or better 3 dimentional plates.
I am sure they could make DND plates if you have a good photo of one to show them.

Dean

peter simundson · #8 13-08-10, 21:01

...This will go on forever. Will you talk with Syd and have this posted for all to see on the OMVA website and quote the authority for this to end the curiosity? Perhaps title it "Display of DND plate on collector vehicles",
or whatever. I like the US copies because they are close but not original.
I know MP's that look for plates that "got away".
There was a mass sale of Jeeps at downsview about 1983 or so and in the back of a 3 ton up for sale were about 100 plate that had been thrown there by whoever took them off. Probably 40 disappeared before the meatheads showed up. I still have 2. They also show up in scrapyards.

Peter