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12-05-10, 01:41
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I have looked in to casting tracks and a master patten was going to be around £1000 before you do anything else,
as for the road wheels i wouldnt bother making the rims they turn up you would be best just buying a few and getting a good rubber firm and do a exchange service lot less messing around ...... I also have looked in to the wheels and had a quote for about £150 each wheel for one or two but if had say 10 prob get them for £100 each maybe less. 
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12-05-10, 16:02
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we need to pool resources!
Hi folks, we all seem to be saying the same thing- can we find someone to reliably (and thats a must given poor quality rubber will either shift off the wheel if not bonded properly I understand, and that the rubber will simply bust up quickly if not good quality) re-rubber good wheels? Can we find someone to forge new ones if required? can we get some NEW track made?
even 1000 stg (a lot for any one of us) becomes maybe reasonable if there are 5 of us going in....I would guess such a wheel mould would last a while?? Regarding the tracks- I guess most of us don't do much mileage, but that over the years since production maybe many of you will, like me, have track which is down to its last few links removal before "placement required" as per instruction manual...?? If anyone wants to pool resources to either buy old wheels cheaper, re-rubber old wheels, cast new ones, cast new links- I'm in! email me for contact number if you're interested...or anyone else more experienced can co-ordinate if you like...I'm only a newbie to all this.... 
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12-05-10, 16:31
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Seriously - if I can get a track link and pin, I can ask my Dads company to quote for the pattern equipment and piece price either as cast or finish machined. Manganese Steel I presume. Casting will only be a few pounds but pattern costs may well be shocking. If someone has a CAD drawing of a link that would bring down the cost as we could get the pattern machined from resin - last forever.
How many links does a Carrier have per side? Wheels: How were they shod originally? Was the rubber cast around the rim or were the rubber tyres bushed over the finished rim?
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12-05-10, 17:13
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Ok guys, I've had a few emails on this so I'll put it in the open!
I'm currently finishing my uni stuff and going Stateside in a few weeks to blow off steam. However, my 'team' are finally in the same situation as me and we're looking to push on with the wheels idea. I hope to have an update by August. We have some good contacts and I may be entering the MV scene formally with a new resto company (and yes if it comes off Carriers will have a very good nod to them...) Thats if I graduate and don't end up back at my parents who won't let me keep any 'rust' near the house 
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12-05-10, 17:26
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There have been similar threads on this subject in the past few years. Perhaps there are some thoughts in them that may assist in your endeavours.
Your Track? AutoCAD track Link
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12-05-10, 17:49
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my thoughts were to make a resin patern by using an actual link, i got pointed in the direction of a casting compound which you pour in two stages, it then sets into hard rubber, you then remove the link and pour in the resin compound and voila.
to answer your question AJ, yes it is manganese steel. i could get a link CAD'd but it would take a millenium to do it, a laser profiler would be better, just set the link up and the machine plots it into the system by passing lasers all over the link......would cost a bomb to do it though.
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12-05-10, 18:44
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Trouble is you can't just make a pattern from an original, Steel shrinks (unlike Cast iron) so your end casting would be a scaled down version of what you started with! The pattern maker scales up the original when he makes the wooden / resin pattern to compensate for the shrinkage. Certain items can be mouled from an original, then the moulder can 'scrape' the sand to compensate for the srinkage. A few years ago Dad did a Model T wing support in steel using an original pushed into the sand, all it needed was a couple of cm adding to its length to allow for the change in size. Obviously the entire thing was a little smaller but it was only critical on the length.
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12-05-10, 19:38
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Wow this subject really hits people's needs!
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12-05-10, 20:51
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as long as they are not ubber expensive then yes you would have a market for sale of the links however if they cost over half the value of a carrier, you might struggle but then again folks sometimes do anything to keep these beasts moving
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