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Old 06-04-10, 10:27
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it is my understanding that the pedals are british pattern however this does not 100% mean it was british made so it could be british or..... a very early production canadian carrier made to british specifications. out of curiosity if you run some scotch brite over the top of the drivers front armour it may or may not reveal some numbers... unlikely if its an early one though.... it would help rule some things out. I must stress that this post is only an opnion from what i have learnt from Nigels books and the family here at MLU so as with everything carrier related take NOTHING for granted....and in the words of Shaun Hindle "keep an open mind mate"


PS a fantastic carrier worth saving though

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Old 07-04-10, 01:13
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I would think if it was an English Carrier it would have all English threaded bolts? Aidan
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Old 07-04-10, 08:42
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All the carriers, British and Canadian, are fastened with BSF fasteners. The only variation that I can think of, is the fasteners in the original Ford componentry. for example the bolts that hold the two halves of the diff housing together, the lid on the gearbox, and the motor fasteners etc.
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Old 07-04-10, 15:32
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I have a video tape of an old training slide show somewhere at home, where the film points out that the two bolts holding the angle iron over top of the division plate MAY be 3/8 UNF rather than BSF. I think Gunner had something to do with the video if I recall.


There is no doubt in my mind that this is an early Canadian carrier. It will likely not have the serial numbers on the front armor plate because they likely were still using the large British style ID plate on the front right fender. A quick check of any parts will show the FMOco markings. I am not 100% sure where the changeover was from the data plate to the stamped serials, but I have seen the data plate on carriers in the 500 range.
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Old 08-04-10, 13:06
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I looked yesterday for the stamped #'s on the top edge of the armor, just in front of the driver, but found nothing. I think I was looking in the right place. This hull has been out in the elements for a long time. I can't wait to wash the bottom out, my forklift has a hard time lifting it, so I'll have to wait until my backhoe is ready. I'm realizing with all the interest in this hull and not the other MK1, that historically she's quite important.

Thanks for the continuing interest. Would they be any signs of where the data plate was, if on the front right fender? Phil
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Old 08-04-10, 22:19
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There should be two holes in the right guard ,190mm apart The guard bolted on at the back via the head light bracket.The two holes are 200mm forward of the rear edge.
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Old 09-04-10, 01:51
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I found the two holes, you chaps really know your stuff . I guess the proper decal is going to be hard to find?

Attached some more pictures. Note the Ford ID on the bogie assembly. The small bracket under the ration box, what is it for? Also what was bolted on the rear armor? Thanks,Phil
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