Black Watch of Canada, vehicle unit Markings ww2

Ed Storey · #1 13-02-10, 17:33

Barry:

You make a good point, there is a lot of collective knowledge that individuals have unearthed and are willing to share on the net. I know I come across as a villian on a number of the forums pressing people to do their own research and to perhaps spend a few bucks on a book; as I feel anyway that doing your own research is more rewarding. I also understand that for some topics or questions it is easier to ask to see if anyone has already cultivated the sources and for that the forums are very good.

No question is 'stupid', I don't like using demeaning terms on people, I may hint that someone is an idiot, misinformed or worse, but without searching through my previous posts I hope I have not in a fit of passion resorted to name calling.

Not to pick on Aidan, but his original post prompted my terse reply as it lead me to believe that he had not done any research into the Black Watch R.H.R. Regiment of Canada before asking his question as he mentioned the regiment serving in both Italy then France. Perhaps I am wrong, but I think Aidan has access to the same internet search engins everyone else has and as I stated; a quick google will at least find sites that can provide a basic history of this famous Canadian regiment. A read through of one of these sites would have revealed that the Black Watch did not as a regiment serve in Italy, and since I have not looked at every Black Watch site, one of these sites may even have a photo gallery of images with vehicles to answer his question.

I am not sure if Aiden even went to his local library to do a search and since the mere mention of looking in, reading or dare I say purchasing a book seems to send a lot of people into a 'spin cycle', I stayed away from a list of titles that deal with the Black Watch R.H.R. Regiment of Canada.

I think too many people use the forums and a computer as a crutch (I refer to it as the magic box) as it is very easy to sit down, type a question and sit back and wait for someone else to do the research and come up with an answer. Then if a villian like myself pressures a person to do the work themselves, they fall back with a poor me attitude of "I was only asking a question and I thought the idea was for everyone to share their knowledge".

I will share this nugget of information, off the top of my very bald head, I believe the information that Aiden is looking for is in the Bouchery book on the Canadian Soldier in Normandy that was printed by the same people who publish Militaria Magazine.

Lynn Eades · #2 13-02-10, 20:49

There are areas where our interest is not so strong. With an interest in Carriers, I have only a vague interest in unit/regiment history, until it meets with, what is of real interest to me. Young people are taught at school to ask, like Aiden has. Unless he is arogant in his ignorance, I would be trying to "peak" his interest, so that he becomes a student, that in time he will be another Ed Storey, or a Mark Toner. Someone whose knowledge has become a resource beyond doubt. (I have enjoyed the thread on the (I 'd better get this right) "utility pouches"
I have learned a lot from you and others, and I thank you.
Aiden, stick around. You could do worse, than MLU. Ed has given you a direction, which you may enjoy.

Aidan · #3 13-02-10, 21:55

Thanks Guys, Aidan

Ed Storey · #4 13-02-10, 23:43

Aiden:

Aiden, when you find the information you a looking for let us know how you did. You might also want to check with the vehicle modellers as they are pretty good at finding out vehicle markings.

ED

Aidan · #5 14-02-10, 04:07

Found the insignia's that I wanted for the Black Watch on a vehicle. Green background square with the Div #60 in white I belive that would be on the Right fender and on the left fender would be Royal Blue square with a Gold leaf. Now what would be the size of the Green Square and Royal Blue Square. and would yellow substitute Gold for the golden leaf? also what Shade of a Green would they have used. Thanks Aidan

Ledsel · #6 14-02-10, 04:53

I would really like to know what this forum is for if not to help each other learn and enjoy their HOBBY, That is what this is ,it's a HOBBY, I 've seen this know it all, Mr Smart a*s attitude in military forums before and I didn't think it would show up on here. What is the big deal about someone asking a simple question ? Do you think you are that much more important than someone else? The man asked a question that was in his interest and was hoping for a simple answer. He was obviously on this site and isn't that looking for the answer? I'm glad I've sold my carrier as I won't have to see this happening to what I thought was a very helpfull and informative forum. There is always at least one A HOLE in the bunch. My 2 cents. TY HAKO-OJA Myrnam Alberta Canada.

cletrac (RIP) · #7 14-02-10, 05:24

I joined this forum in 2003. Before that I didn't know what CMP meant. To me, they were just old Canadian army trucks. We all have to start somewhere! Since then I've acquired a vast amount of knowledge on the subject and don't mind sharing it with anyone who asks. A newbie might ask some inane questions but he learns from them and one day might be able to clue some of the experts in on a few points. Now I'm going to go back to looking at some of those Google Life images and maybe figure out a few more tidbits of info to share.

servicepub (RIP) · #8 14-02-10, 18:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ledsel

I would really like to know what this forum is for if not to help each other learn and enjoy their HOBBY, That is what this is ,it's a HOBBY, I 've seen this know it all, Mr Smart a*s attitude in military forums before and I didn't think it would show up on here. What is the big deal about someone asking a simple question ? Do you think you are that much more important than someone else? The man asked a question that was in his interest and was hoping for a simple answer. He was obviously on this site and isn't that looking for the answer? I'm glad I've sold my carrier as I won't have to see this happening to what I thought was a very helpfull and informative forum. There is always at least one A HOLE in the bunch. My 2 cents. TY HAKO-OJA Myrnam Alberta Canada.

Ledsel,
This was a totally unnecessary post. You cannot complain about one member's comments if you, in turn, start name calling. This forum has managed to stay away from this type of language that is so prevalent on other fora. Ed has his opinion on postings and did not bring it down to a personal attack. I think that you owe MLU an apology and you should edit your post.
Clive

Geoff Winnington-Ball (RIP) · #9 16-02-10, 00:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ledsel

I would really like to know what this forum is for if not to help each other learn and enjoy their HOBBY, That is what this is ,it's a HOBBY, I 've seen this know it all, Mr Smart a*s attitude in military forums before and I didn't think it would show up on here. What is the big deal about someone asking a simple question ? Do you think you are that much more important than someone else? The man asked a question that was in his interest and was hoping for a simple answer. He was obviously on this site and isn't that looking for the answer? I'm glad I've sold my carrier as I won't have to see this happening to what I thought was a very helpfull and informative forum. There is always at least one A HOLE in the bunch. My 2 cents. TY HAKO-OJA Myrnam Alberta Canada.

Whoa, hoss. What you should know is that Mr. Storey is a VERY accomplished amateur historian with MANY years of detailed research under his belt. He is also a long-time serving member of the Canadian Army who has served in some of the worst shitholes in this world. You are doing him, MLU, and this hobby, a disservice in calling him an asshole. All he was doing was suggesting Aidan utilise the web resources the rest of us do when we're looking for information. He did not insult you, nor Aidan himself. Ty, I respectfully suggest that if you have a problem with this, then the problem is yours, not Ed's.

Neither was there any cause for you to go after Clive Law ('servicepub'). We will not tolerate any type of personal attack on MLU. If you have a problem with anyone's post in future, you will address it to me personally, via PM or email.

Clear?