2010 at the Hammond Barn

[KrisHamilton]

ahh it will have to be next time.. tonight i have already committed to working for my in-laws redoing a bathroom

....next time

[RHClarke]

I arrived just after lunch to a deserted barn. Lucifer was roaring full blast, but no one was around. So, I headed out to the Prototype shelter to work on the removal of the window frames. After a few minuites, Bob arrived after fueling up his truck. Grant and Guy were busy, so it was just Bob and me at the barn today.

Maintenance was the order of the day. The first task was to manage the garbage, which I took care of. Next was to change the oil on Bob's diesel. That took about 20 minutes in -13oC weather (wind chill was about -25oC).

The next task was to clean out the sandblasting cabinet. This involved removing and cleaning the vacuum system and removing and filtering the blasting grit. The vacuum was blasted clean by high pressure air hose and it needed a good cleaning out. Bob reloaded the grit, set up the vacuum and I gave the system a workout cleaning my Prototype HUP's front window frames.

Bob then got on to twisting, bending and heating his nuts. Such agony! Bob was testing out his latest acquistion - a tap to clean the threads of his wheel nuts.

Bob doing the twist:


The tap was secured in the vice and Bob threaded one after one wheelnut onto it. The sound a nut makes when it is getting cleaned out was eerie...anyone standing outside of the barn would have thought some depraved lunatic was torturing an animal inside the barn.

Nuts so clean...


After a spot of cocoa and tea (thanks, Joyce!) Bob finished up the nut cleaning. Lucifer was then starved of fuel, and we closed up shop. The fun never ends at the Hammond Barn!

[Bob Carriere]

Bonjour Mike

I am just about ready to mount the new 10:50 tires on clean rims.... sandblasted and painted in POR..... rim nuts are being cleaned up.....

We did a very preliminary trial fit then gave up.....

The new tires are very tight..... how tight....well that's why I am asking you guys. I have the option of going tothe tire shop....pay the fiddler and bring them back home all done...... but being sadistic we would like to do it ourselves.

Now our first try we did not use any water.soap lubricant..... tire bead stuck very early to the rim.....

Do you have any wisdom to share on how to fore them on far enough to get the long rim bolts to thread....... did you press the tires on the rim ?

I have been thinking of designing and building a 20 ton jack powered device to push the tires in place....... not very keen on using only air pressure when we have only two bolts in place.....

We have even considered having a glass of red wine available for inspiration...

Awaiting your advice......

Boob

[Mike Timoshyk]

Hi Bob,

No boob don't you remember that they don't / won't fit on those rims..

ok enough joking....I see you POR'd the rims...I did not POR the inside where the rubber meets the steel...I spray painted with glossy tremclad. As you know POR can be quite thick and textured. The glossy assisted with the sliding of the rubber against the steel. I used dish soap for lube...no KY available in sufficient quantity. Naval "arselene" was out of the question. I was able to snug up 2 nuts on the two longest studs as each rim had. Once a couple of threads were on the nuts I started with an impact wrench on each alternately and brought the rim together a bit. Stop here and have a glass of wine. Then I started other nuts and added air to expand the tire...be careful not to pinch the flap. If when you lay the first rim and the floor and place the tire on it and you cannot get the second half of the rim to "reach" the studs of the bottom rim try pounding on the bead to slide it down the rim...stop and have a glass of wine and then add the flap and top rim. If it still does not quite reach have Rob or Grant to add their weight to the rim and start the threads....once the air is added and the loud "POP" happens have another glass of wine and call it a job well done.

IF this does not make sense I will call you ...cheers Myke aka frack

[Bob Carriere]

.....not sure if we have enough wine.

What you described is what we did on old Michelin casings that we installed on what we call YARD tires..... not fit for the road.

We even forced the Michelin bead to start using a 2x4 and worked only on the bottom longer half....once the bolts were within reach the rest was easy.

The new tires did not seem to want to fit or stretch to fit...... maybe the casings were too cold.......

Like Gord Yeo told me you need to shove a thin piece of wood in between the both halves before doing the full tightening sequence to insure the flap and tubes are not pinched.

Will renew our efforts but this time will get a suitable supply of proper tire lube and wine.........

Will keep you posted.

Boob

[Harry Moon]

When i accumulated all my spares a few years back i had about 16 different 9x16 tires of all different makes and styles. military and civvy. i never saw any sign of machining on any of the rims.
I've mounted a full set of 9x16 Denmans myself and had a shop labor over the 10.50x16 Chevron's but in both cases it was by hand.
We just stuffed the tube and liners inside with baby powder spread liberally and the used some rubber lube assembly grease on the edges of the tires. (it was the lube used when assembling the brake cylinders)
We pulled the rims together a bit with the long studs(2) and put some pressure in to settle the tube and liner in place.
Let the air out and used a smooth ended stick to make sure the tube and liner was back in the tire by poking inwards from the center of the wheel.
Pulled the rims together with the nuts on the studs a little at a time checking regularly with the stick from time to time that the tubes are still in place. when it seemed as close as it could get without actually pinching the tire I hooked on the air pressure (remove the valve) and at between 60 and 90 PSI we had lift off when the tires blew out to the edge of the rim and were seated.
Some took a lot less pressure and a beating with a big rubber mallet helped but have a clear work area.
let the air out now that the tires are seated. undo all the nuts and pull the rim apart sticking progressively bigger blocks in to hold them apart. (this is how to change a tube if you have a hole in your tube later)
Make sure that the liner and tube are free and clear, put the halves back together and cross torque the nuts, fill with air and away you go.
if you have the Chevrons be aware of the direction of rotation and don't worry about the spare as no matter which direction you put it on the flat will be the other way!

[Mike Timoshyk]

damn, just the thought of cold casings gives me the chills...

good point about the cold rubber...ahem...

myke

[Harry Moon]

Originally Posted by Mike Timoshyk

damn, just the thought of cold casings gives me the chills...

good point about the cold rubber...ahem...

myke

If your rubber is too cold I doubt you will be up to using it.......