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25-10-09, 15:52
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I LOVE that tin of yours Bob, 'cos it shows exactly the correct colour and settles arguments once and for all about the precise wartime shade.
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25-10-09, 20:58
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Below are two 1/35 scale models I made and painted using the paint formula worked out by Mike Cecil at the AWM. The Chev fuel tanker is painted PRE-1942 Service Green the CMP Ambulance is painted POST-1942 Service Green which is the colour your cans of paint are. 
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Cheers Cliff Hutchings aka MrRoo S.I.R. "and on the 8th day he made trucks so that man, made on the 7th day, had shelter when woman threw him out for the night" MrRoo says "TRUCKS ROOLE" 
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26-10-09, 04:04
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You are spot on, the paper seal on the lid said 1944. Lots of lead in the tin , took ages to get it mix properly, a real mongrel to spray it settled quickly
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26-10-09, 05:44
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Alex, if you look in the C8 parts list, the only colours mentioned are "matte green" and "light stone". In the 1A2 parts list there's no choice of colours for the canvas cover so it was likely just offered in khaki.These would be the colours the trucks were painted at the factory and the SCC2 brown would have been applied in Europe. Chances are the frame on your truck never got the brown paint. My HUP got repainted blue by the RCAF but they just closed the doors and painted it. The chassis and interior remained khaki. When you take all this into consideration a brown Cab 11 would be something like this:
Frame and chassis and engine compartment khaki. Engine and tranny Chev engine grey or possibly khaki if a military rebuild. Interior khaki or SCC2 on some repaint jobs. Seats khaki. Window canvas khaki with outside painted brown. Outside of body brown. Inside of box khaki or brown on some repaint jobs. Rear seats brown leatherette. Tilt canvas khaki with outside painted brown. Radio equipment khaki. Camouflage pattern in that almost black colour. If the truck made it to Europe through North Africa you can replace all the khaki with light stone except for the radio equipment and inside of the tilt canvas. Having said all this, you never see a restored truck painted like this. They always seem to think that a brown truck was all brown. The picture is a couple of North Africa trucks getting their SCC2 makeover getting ready for Italy. You can tell that they never touched the undercarriage or the interior.
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1940 Cab 11 C8 Wireless with 1A2 box & 11 set 1940 Cab 11 C8 cab and chassis 1940 Cab 11 C15 with 2A1 & Motley mount & Lewis gun 1940 Cab 11 F15A w/ Chev rear ends 1941 Cab 12 F15A 1942-44 Cab 13 F15A x 5 1942 cab 13 F15A with 2B1 box 1943 cab 13 F15A with 2H1 box 1943 Cab 13 C8A HUP 1944 Cab 13 C15A with 2C1 box 1943 Cletrac M2 High Speed Tractor MkII Bren gun carrier chassis x 2
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26-10-09, 07:06
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G'day Cliff, Its a great model Cliff - I never realised how much work goes into them. Yep that colour on the 1941-7 Chevy model you posted a photo of is the same one that my 1940 is wearing. I noticed that the roof on the model has a roof hatch and some other bits and pieces. I think one is a grab rail - what are the other bits? My truck has an intact roof with no sign of a hatch ever being installed. The only difference I can see in my truck and one a bloke owns who lives down the road from me is that mine had the hinged windscreen, a flap on the floor of the cab near the driver's feet that lifts up to access the battery and a bracket for a fire extinguisher on the wall of the passenger's side cab wall. No gun hooks are evident. The other bloke’s truck was bought new and spent its working life on the sugar cane farm so it never saw any military service. I would be going around and asking him lots of questions all the time except that his wife has recently been diagnosed with cancer so I do not wish to annoy them. Kind Regards Lionel
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1940 Chevrolet MCP with Holden Built Cab (30 CWT). 1935 REO Speed Wagon. 1963 Series 2A Army Ambulance ARN 112-211 Series III ex-Military Land Rovers x 2
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26-10-09, 07:37
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The model was built using AWM photos of fuel tankers in the Atherton Tablelands during WW2 and is accurate to the photos. There is the roof hatch with hand grabs in front of it and a clip that the hatch attaches too when open.
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Cheers Cliff Hutchings aka MrRoo S.I.R. "and on the 8th day he made trucks so that man, made on the 7th day, had shelter when woman threw him out for the night" MrRoo says "TRUCKS ROOLE"
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29-10-09, 23:11
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 What a great find! The colour I am after is SCC2, but it is interesting to see that G3 was used a lot longer in Aussie service than with the Brits here in North-West Europe. Quote:
You have seen my truck, it's rust allover, but there are traces of G3 on the cab rear wall and traces of both G3 and SCC2 on the dash. There is another green colour on the windscreen frame (outside) and traces of a dark colour (maybe camouflage) on the inside as well as the outside, which looks blue-ish. I still have to make some time to study the paint traces properly, but as I wrote above the idea is to paint the truck SCC2. I do fancy your conclusion you wrote down in the list and I might even be tempted to go for a partically G3 truck with SCC2 on the easily accesible places. But, there will always be a certain deviation from reality because most of us like to spraypaint parts the best we can, in stead of using a big old brush covered in paint, dust, sand, grease like it was sometimes done in WW2. You know I have come from scale modeling and in modeling we fancy some variation in colours. So, it's more likely to see the colour variations you mention on a scale model rather than on a restored vehicle. Although I do have to say that the desert rats F8 (Clifton Lang?) in the UK is green on the inside! Alex
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