When did production of the #13 cab begin?

David_Hayward (RIP) · #1 12-10-09, 08:45

I was impressed by the data off the January 1942-build Gas-2! That is the earliest known (to me) 1942 MODEL C60L, and was clearly an Oshawa build for the Canadian Government and not a) a Ministry of Supply order for Australia and b) a Holden-assembled truck.

I agree at the moment with the suggested dates, but early January 1942 as fars as GM is concerned is in my opinion spot-on. Windsor however may have been slightly earlier or later, and may even have mixed cabs on the lines depending on chassis: see Dr Gregg's book with both types in the plant.

Lionelgee · #2 12-10-09, 10:21

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Originally Posted by David_Hayward

I was impressed by the data off the January 1942-build Gas-2! That is the earliest known (to me) 1942 MODEL C60L, and was clearly an Oshawa build for the Australian Government and not a) a Ministry of Supply order for Australia and b) a Holden-assembled truck.

I agree at the moment with the suggested dates, but early January 1942 as fars as GM is concerned is in my opinion spot-on. Windsor however may have been slightly earlier or later, and may even have mixed cabs on the lines depending on chassis: see Dr Gregg's book with both types in the plant.

Hello David and other MLU people. On this thread a couple of people have mentioned Dr Gregg's book. Could someone please provide some details of the book/s and if they are still available - plus where from for how much? See I only had a couple of questions to ask

Kind Regards
Lionel

David_Hayward (RIP) · #3 12-10-09, 11:49

They are BLUEPRINT FOR VICTORY Parts/Volumes 1, 2 and 3:

http://www.rcakitshop.net/catalog/in...ae6fea6a3944f2

I think I have a few copies now of Volume 3, and I also have a signed copy of Volume 2 which is a limited edition plastic folder with printed pages in aort of looseleaf arrangement, ideal for modelers. There is a photo in there in connection, from memory, relating to Ford's introduction of a serial number system, of # 12 and 13 cabs parked in a building when new. I suspect that the photo was out of the National Archives but have yet to find it.

The books are excellent, and Volume 1 I gather has been reprinted so my copy must be one of the last of the later printing. They have stood the test of time very well, but I have updated a lot of the information therein, from the Archives, and also sources not available to Bill Gregg at the time. I regret that Sid Swallow died before I was able to communicate with him but I did exchange letters with Fords/ Canadian Mechanization HQ's Herb Ronson, although he died not long after I last heard from him; his brother who worked on Carriers at Fords survived him but I never contacted him.

That all said I keep finding nuggets of new information about the British assembly operations, usually from obscure files in the Archives, and I thus never stop improving my own literary work. I am just about to publish a two-parter on the Canadian Mechanization Depot at Citroen cars in Slough, Buckinghamshire, in VINTAGE ROADSCENE magazine. I wrote about the Southampton CMD in issue 110, and have published my work on the origins of CMPs in past issues of VRS (13 I think!). However I could not have done it without more than a nod of assistance from Bill's books.

Ryan · #4 29-11-11, 04:59

It's been a couple of years since this thread was added too.
Has anyone in that time come across new trucks or data plates to narrow down the cab 13 production start point?

Tony Smith · #5 29-11-11, 12:31

The Ford Parts Catalogues state the new design cabs were introduced from Chassis Number 21566, but note the chassis numbers for the 12 Cabs listed by Jason Ginn in post #19 above! No date is specified for the build date of 21566, but the 13 Cab is first listed in Catalogue SE39-42, with a print date of Jan '42.