What horn for FTG 1940

NORTH-SHORE(CANADA) · #1 05-02-08, 02:54

Hi

What kind of horn i need for my FTG 1940

and the voltage is what

thx

Eric

Keith Webb · #2 05-02-08, 03:22

It's 6v standard Ford type horn for the era.

NORTH-SHORE(CANADA) · #3 05-02-08, 03:31

Hi

Any pic

Keith Webb · #4 05-02-08, 03:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by NORTH-SHORE(CANADA)

Hi

Any pic

Probably the same as the one on this Lynx...

Stefan Leegwater · #5 05-02-08, 06:31

On our 1940 F60H, there is a very long horn (longer than the chev one) and located under the cab mounted on the chassis, I think you should have one of these. Look at the picture for location. (Ford only)

Lang · #6 05-02-08, 06:49

Eric,

If you have changed your vehicle to 12 volt your horn will still work fine (it won't burn out or anything like that)

Just get a couple of wires to a 12 volt battery and touch the terminals to test it. You can now use the little adjusting screw to "tune" the instrument. 12 volt will make the diaphram move faster and slightly further. Tiny adjustments to the screw will arrive at the correct gap and perfect note - just touch wire- adjust, touch wire - adjust until it is in full cry.

You can go back the other way like this with a 12 volt horn to 6 volt system.

NORTH-SHORE(CANADA) · #7 05-02-08, 21:35

Hi

so i need a long horn

For the long horn where could i find that and what is the price for a horn like that

cliff · #8 05-02-08, 22:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by NORTH-SHORE(CANADA)

Hi

so i need a long horn

For the long horn where could i find that and what is the price for a horn like that

Here are two photos of the horn on Llyods' Ford Quad here in Gympie Australia. This vehicle is very original so this will be the one you need.

Cheers
Cliff

NORTH-SHORE(CANADA) · #9 06-02-08, 00:09

Hi

Is it the long one or the little one

where could i find that and what is the price for a horn like that

Stefan Leegwater · #10 06-02-08, 06:45

I took apart many 11 and 12 cab fords, and they all had that long horn.
That is the horn used on early fords (Canadian) Maybe other forum members can confirm that.
The short one was used on 13 cab fords, ford lynx 1&2, GM FOX, and maybe more.

Stefan

Dirk Leegwater (RIP) · #11 06-02-08, 21:19

NORTH-SHORE(CANADA) Is it the long one or the little one......

The long one Eric, you need a "long horn" Sparton, Ford Canada
(CMP)part no. 81C-13833, (old design cab). Part number of the
later "short projector" horn is C29Q-13833 (new design cab).

Dirk

Grant Bowker · #12 07-02-08, 19:37

For an image of a long horn generally similar to the one illustrated above see e-bay item 350022576974. I can't tell you whether your idea of "working" and "good value" match the seller's.

NORTH-SHORE(CANADA) · #13 07-02-08, 21:54

Hi

I will fallow that item but what is a good price for a horn like that

Grant Bowker · #14 07-02-08, 23:03

Defining a "reasonable price" is very hard to do for many reasons.
1. Do you need it now? next week? within a year?
2. Is your objective to have a "perfect" horn, one that looks fine but doesn't work or one that works but looks a bit rough?
3. How many of the item are available (not just on e-bay). For example I don't remember seeing many of the long horn, but you could take an easily available working short/Chev horn and combine it with a long housing from a not working horn to make a working long horn. At least, I think you can, I haven't done it.
4. How much money do you have available for the project. Jay Leno of the "Tonight Show" has enough money to hire several full time staff to look after his collection. Although Bob and Rob give great help with my truck they expect (reasonably) that I give them an equal amount of help in return.
5. You can search the "vintage parts" section of e-bay motors for completed listings using the phrase "Chevy horn" to see what similar horns have sold for. You will have to screen out the unreasonably high bids from people who get auction fever and just have to have the thing right now. Also look at listings that didn't get any bids. This will give an idea of what people thought was too much. Using Chev distributors as an example, I have seen "working" examples sell for 99 cents and others that look similar sell for 50 dollars. I have also seen items sell at what I though was a "too high" price and an hour later seen a similar item fail to get any bids at a much 10% of the first price. I can't explain why this happens.

On edit: one more caution.
6. If the part can be advertised as fitting a Corvette (car, not ship) the buyer will think it is worth at least twice as much as a functionally identical part that is advertised as Chevrloet. I don't know the Ford equivalent but I' sure it exists.

NORTH-SHORE(CANADA) · #15 07-02-08, 23:20

Hi

You sound like my wife

i only ask how much a horn cost

PS i dont have Jay Leno money

NORTH-SHORE(CANADA) · #16 28-09-09, 23:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirk Leegwater

NORTH-SHORE(CANADA) Is it the long one or the little one......

The long one Eric, you need a "long horn" Sparton, Ford Canada
(CMP)part no. 81C-13833, (old design cab). Part number of the
later "short projector" horn is C29Q-13833 (new design cab).

Dirk

Hi,
I found my long horn"Sparton" with the braket is the braket is the right one??? and Anyone could tell me what is the
13814 part on the diagrame??? i think mind is burn something meld for it what is it and where could i found a replace one

Here a pic of my new acquisition

NORTH-SHORE(CANADA) · #17 29-09-09, 22:38

Hi,
Anyone

S LATHERON (RIP) · #18 29-09-09, 23:07

I have a 1944 F60S 13 cab and it was missing a horn. Over the years I have watched Milweb and Ebay and searched by various search names.
Ford Canada,CMP Truck, Truck Horn, Horn 6v and Horn 12v.
Finally after about 3 years I saw a LONG horn as per the picture that Stefan was able to post a while ago. The Asking bids on Ebay were by my estimate not to high, The description from the seller was a picture and a very short text, Along lines of Old Truck / car horn, Voltage Unknown, not working and a starting pice about 10 CDN Dollars [5 GBP].I BID ONCE ONLY at 40 dollars 20 GBP. Topped the best bid and won it somewhere around 15 CDN, Plus postage.
Once the package arrived, I was quiet prepared to find a total basket case inside the horn shell. on dismantaling the horn rear cover I could see a that the original wires had worn thru the insulation. I re insulated the wires, tightened up all the connectors and after attaching carefully to a 12v supply was able to get a feeble croak from the Diaphragm. Adjusted the lock nut and points and tried again, nearly blew my ear drums out, Nice deep tone.
I see from the comments on this post that I should have a Short Horn on my 1944 truck. OK maybe one day, but for now this one sounds great and does not look out of place.
I hope the one you bought works just as well for you but dont forget to check the wires inside the cover and of course make a good earth connection onto the chassis frame to complete the circuit.
After all if its LOUD enough to frighten jaywalkers it saves scraping them off the fenders later .
Regards Stephen

NORTH-SHORE(CANADA) · #19 01-10-09, 18:12

Hi,
Here is a pic of the inside the black stuf meld is it normal?

S LATHERON (RIP) · #20 01-10-09, 21:06

I will attempt to open a LONG horn and look again at the inside. I think the Meld [melt] Is the sealing on the end of a resistor. Will try and get a pic and post it ok
Stephen

Lynn Eades · #21 02-10-09, 07:36

Here are two pictures. one is a short horn, the other is a long horn. If something leaks out, stay out of the way!!!

NORTH-SHORE(CANADA) · #22 02-10-09, 20:57

HI,

It working

S LATHERON (RIP) · #23 03-10-09, 22:24

The wonderful steaks that those last Two 4 legged Horn carriers posted By Lynn will make on a barberque!!.

Question for Dirk or Stefan, Can you buy the Short projecter as a seperate part and replace the Long projector just by unbolting the old one and re bolting the new one.
Looking at the Two part numbers the early CAB 11 and the later cab 13, the last part of the Horn part number is the same?.
As the Long horn works but only needs a short projector seems sense to just swap the front section.
Any thoughts on the practicality please.

david moore · #24 10-10-09, 18:54

My cab 12 F8 came with the short type of horn but maybe changed along the way? Or maybe they changed mid/late 1941?
Question re connection - the horn has only one terminal - presumably for the battery 6v connection? How then is the horn wired to the steering column button? Do I take the column wire to one of the bolts in the body of the horn, assuming that the horn attachment is electrically insulated from the frame such that pressing the button will complete the circuit?

Lynn Eades · #25 11-10-09, 12:23

You can probably change the trumpet, as the PCD is common to a variety of horns.