M151a2

rob love · #1 15-09-09, 03:55

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Originally Posted by armybuck041

I took a CFR and was promoted on Friday....

In addition to locking myself out of my car today, the numbers and info I posted up earlier was right out to lunch

I guess all that stuff they say is true.

Anyone notice the difference of the Grill from the rest of the M151A2s? Mine has the "Furnace Filter", but those look like the entire Grill was modified/reinforced and the Slats removed. Interesting.

You might as well buy a car with a GPS because I never met a commissioned officer yet that can read a map.

That grill is very odd. Reinforced all around the outer edges where the winter cover buttons should be. I wondered if it might be part of the Tow kit, but a google check of other tow mutts show regular grills.

Mutt parts were never particularly rare or expensive. Kind of have to wonder why someone went to all the trouble.

Scott Bentley · #2 15-09-09, 04:10

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Originally Posted by rob love

You might as well buy a car with a GPS because I never met a commissioned officer yet that can read a map.

I once watched a Phase III Candidate almost corkscrew himself into the ground trying to orientate his map..... Point taken

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Originally Posted by rob love

That grill is very odd. Reinforced all around the outer edges where the winter cover buttons should be. I wondered if it might be part of the Tow kit, but a google check of other tow mutts show regular grills.

Mutt parts were never particularly rare or expensive. Kind of have to wonder why someone went to all the trouble.

Funny thing is even the one in the pic from RV has the grill done too, so its definately not a one off. Kinda looks like the 202 Workshop Boys got carried away.... MUTT Grills are pretty flimsy, but doesn't seem to justify a total re-engineering. 6 Bolts, 6 Plugs and Bye Bye...

rob love · #3 15-09-09, 04:18

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Originally Posted by armybuck041

I once watched a Phase III Candidate almost corkscrew himself into the ground trying to orientate his map..... Point taken

Like a doberman chasing his tail.....

jim fraser (RIP) · #4 15-09-09, 05:41

hi.looking at my mutt and it has rv 85 stencelled on the passenger side windshield.regards jim.

servicepub (RIP) · #5 15-09-09, 22:51

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Originally Posted by rob love

You might as well buy a car with a GPS because I never met a commissioned officer yet that can read a map.

Generally speaking you shouldn't make generalities! I was a commissioned officer in the Reserves and I was also a champion Orienteer when in Cadets. I am sure we all know officers who have read the map upside down but I have also known an Armour crewman who thought that the brown lines on a map (the contour lines) were footpaths.

rob love · #6 16-09-09, 01:01

There is no greater pleasure to a platoon of mechanics than to be going over a cloverleaf on a main highway while watching the maint-O heading away into the horizon from the underpass away from the convoy. I swear they used to do these things just to raise our morale.

Sorry if I caused offense Clive, but as Scotty has pointed out, the deterioration is already occurring.

BTW Scotty, have you started shopping around for a sword yet? You can always go classy and get a 130 year old example from John Denner or the like.

Craig S. · #7 23-09-09, 23:57

Hi Ed -

Found the attached info on your CFR. Cheers,

Craig

Scott Bentley · #8 24-09-09, 01:48

Really quite strange....

It shows as a "Normal" M151A2 that belonged to 1 CMBG HQ and Sigs.

Makes me wonder if the Serial Number Plate got mixed up somewhere along the way.

When I initially looked up the Serial Number in the other EDR MSE Database, it came back with the "Normal" ECC, yet its clearly a TOW MUTT.

Hmm....

rob love · #9 24-09-09, 03:57

Perhaps the kit was added to the basic vehicle post-service. I recall a story in one of the EME journals about one of the base workshops rebuilding a MUTT for the CWM. It may have been Kingston or Trenton if IRCC. Maybe someone made a decision to dress it up a bit, as opposed to having just a basic MUTT. The same thing happened here. A couple MPs restored a basic M38A1CDN3 for the Shilo Museum, and turned it into a MP Jeep while they were at it.

Ed Storey · #10 24-09-09, 11:53

Thank you for the information, this is great. When I read what Craig had posted I began to wonder how an M151A2 listed by DND with 1HQandSigs could become a TOW vehicle. If there is an article about DND 'fixing up' a M151A2 for the CWM I would like to see it as I think it would clinch the mystery of this vehicle.

If it was 'made up' by DND, just goes to show how a goodwill jesture can really foul up a historical record.