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Old 15-07-09, 17:26
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totally hear where you are coming from Martyn......But......... i now have access to a pucker unmolested Mk1 with complete armour which i will verify the measurements with.

once i had what i felt to be accurate drawings i was going to get my pal to machine patterns out of ply wood (same thickness as the steel would be) from this i was going to retro fit it to the carrier to make sure it fits then from that make any adjustments required on the drawings.

another thing to consider folks is yes in the end i may produce plans for us all .......But....... as Martyn quite rightly pointed out you will need to get it rivetted by skilled people.......and also what needs to be considered is the top armour forms alot of ridgidity (spelling?) for the hull, when this is chopped off it is my understanding that the tub can actually twist which makes fitting new pannels somewhat problematic. problem is you probably wont know until its fitting time.

prices for mild steel (up here north) are very reasonable at present but i have no doubt they will sky rocket back up again (hence why i need to move fast)


as i say if the firm were to arrange a cost for a bulk purchase ie say six sets perhaps a group of us could club together.....but...... as the carrier fraternity consists of isolated clusters around the globe, it would be a pain for the Canadian and Australian clusters to pay and ship.


like anything guys it has pro's and Con's but what i would like to politely suggest is those that need armour should speak up and share their views.....those with armour obviously can give opinion too.

Martyn could you perhaps provide a cast iron (forgive the pun) quote for a set of armour and perhaps center bulkhead (as most who need armour need this too)




then people can weigh up :-
A) how much they can get the raw material for
B) have the ability to take drawings and make something that will be correct and fit their prospective hulls
C) have the time to do it themselves


or

A) get it done through the chap who did yours and

B) ship it home
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Old 17-07-09, 03:30
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I am one of those unlucky ones with cut down carriers. I would be interested in good drawings of the armour. If the alberta guys can make it cheap enough I could be into buying some. I get out to Edmonton at least once a year and could pick it up. It would knock years off the restoration to have it already pre made! I'll keep watching this thread.
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Old 19-07-09, 20:48
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right unfortunately i have found that the drawings above are not correct to a 1942 Mk1 canadian carrier specification. i am going to have to go on a road trip to see a pucker mk1 methinks !

i measured my armour remnants and came back with the following

so on my 1942 canadian UC Mk1

rear and side armour plate is 8mm

front armour is 10mm

Glacis plate 5mm

center bulkhead 5mm

good news is that i have DXF'd most of the plates so once i change the parameters they should be ok for CNC use
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1944 Morris C8 radio body (under restoration).

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