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Old 19-04-09, 06:21
Lynn Eades Lynn Eades is offline
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Is that your cam plate we are looking at. I will post a pic (that may have come from Ron, and it looks like Jordans been there) so that we can help I.D which bits your talking about.
If we are looking at your cam plate,and the long clevis, then it all looks too close to the floor. Is the cam plate assembled onto the mounting plate correctly? If you can get the two pins(screws) out, then you can pull the rods out, and then make them the same length. At this point you can drop out the mounting plate(with the cam plate on it) and though the hole, check the rollers etc.
My understanding is that once you have everything set up, all you have to do, is adjust the brakes at the backing plate.
I'll also post another bit, that should be credited to someone from the forum.
Thers a bit to getting these brakes together correctly. Different coloured springs etc.
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Old 19-04-09, 06:40
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Gidday Lynn,

Yes, the view I have shown in the photograph is (via the mirror) looking back along the floor of the hull, through the bulkhead in the drivers area, looking back at the clevis on the camplate. You can make out the camplate in one of the two pictures I posted.

In the picture you have posted, it is the left side clevis mounted on the camplate (labelled J) that is the problem.

The problem is that once this clevis is fully back (toward the rear of the carrier) it drops below a plate that is bolted to the hull around the area where the cross shaft goes.

As you say, it is simply a little too close to the floor. I would say it would only need 1-2 mm shaved off the underside of that clevis (or off that plate) but the problem is getting too it, so I could remove the clevis mounting screw.

Does that help explain my predicament?

Cheers

Darryl
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Old 19-04-09, 07:22
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I am guessing there may be a washer missing from under the bearing,or some other assembly fault, with your cam plate. The English/ Canadian carriers, have very little clearence for the bottom end of the clevis pins, but the Aust design allows more room, and hence have bigger dia. split pins, and longer ends to the clevis pins.
Your long clevis's are virtually rubbing on the floor.
Can one of you Aussie guys put up a parts breakdown for the cam plate, showing whats there is in the way of washers, spacers etc.
Ron, what you you tell us?
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Old 19-04-09, 07:49
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Thanks Lynn

Do you have any secrets for actually accessing the area?

Cheers

Darryl
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Old 19-04-09, 07:59
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Im guessing that if you disconnect the brakes at the rear, then you can probably get full rotation of the cam plate. This in turn, may allow you better access to the pins in the long clevis's (j)
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Old 19-04-09, 11:55
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Hi Darryl &Lyn,
Lyn I think that you are correct, there is a washer missing from under the cam plate,and I would hazzaed a guess that The clevis pin is too long,and what you suggest regarding disconnecting the brake rods to test for movement is also the way to go,I think that I would also check to see if I was getting the same amount of movement in either direction of the cross shaft , Idealy I would remove the steering cam plate and give it a good check over, I realise that Darryls carrier has been rebuilt but the bearing might be buggered and not allowing enough movement,its not a big job and its best to look at all of the options,good luck Darryl keep us posted,
Regards to you both,Ron
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Old 22-04-09, 10:26
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Hi Ron and Lynn,

Thanks for the replies. I will give your suggestions a go and come back to you. My biggest problem is going to be squeezing into that little gap again!

Cheers

Darryl
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