C8AX production

Brian Gough · #1 19-03-09, 23:31

Hanno,

You have sharp eyes but it is correct. The C8AX does indeed have the wider front fenders of the C15A.

Brian

Hanno Spoelstra · #2 23-03-09, 12:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian Gough

You have sharp eyes but it is correct. The C8AX does indeed have the wider front fenders of the C15A.

Brian,

Others would say I´m wasting my time, but thanks. . .

So do I understand correctly all C8AX´s were delivered with the wider 15-cwt fenders (so this example is not an exeption to the rule)?

Thanks,
Hanno

Rob Beale · #3 23-03-09, 20:25

The only narrow guards I have seen are modified wide ones which still have original holes.

I believe there is a reference in Wheels and Tracks, either issues 1/2 or a later issue in the 'What's new' column where Ross Hopkins' C8AX was pictured. Bart related that the preliminary parts list C8AX had the C15A part numbers for the front guards.

Back then Bart thought there were only a small number of survivors in NZ, when in fact they are still numerous, and a few ex Solomons campaign C8AX seem to have ended up in Aussie.

Rob

Rob Beale · #4 29-04-09, 11:39

The national rally of the NZMVCC was held in Gisborne this Easter 09.

From front to rear:Ambulance, Radio Shack, General Service, Heavy Utility.

Rob

Rob Beale · #5 29-04-09, 11:50

The Radio shack is unfinished, but we managed to give it a repaint and fit a lot of parts for show. It is a replica built to a slightly differnt style to the one featured on the NZ ZC1 site. (The owner of the HUP saw the original it was based on. There is a second replica in the Wanaka Transport Museum)

The Ambulance has 4 stretcher capacity, but is more like a WW1 style than the contemporary Dodge and Austin ambulances.

The GS version is the most numerous, and were often seen in the Solomons campaign without a canopy. The deck has similarities to early model 8cwt CMPs.

It took a while to get them together! They are from Wellington, Hamilton and Gisborne.
Rob

Mike K · #6 29-04-09, 12:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob Beale

and a few ex Solomons campaign C8AX seem to have ended up in Aussie.

Rob

Yes , more and more of them are turning up over here ...nearly all of them are found in NSW , indicating a disposal point within that state . Back in the 70's we thought they were rare over here , but not anymore. I guess a few ship loads of them were shipped in ..must have been a bargain deal for the buyer , being sold 'in situ' on the Pacific Islands, made the deal less attractive for many prospective buyers maybe. The NZ Govt. obviously didn't want to be involved in shipping them home and sold the lot 'as is'.

Seems odd that the trucks found here were actually in an active theatre of operations, the Solomons .. but the examples left in NZ didn't see any angry shots fired.

Mike

Tony Smith · #7 27-07-09, 11:38

Bob McNeill has found -742 in This Thread, so the list is now:

XH8448-073 FR3867782 mfd 5 - 3 – 43
XH8448-079 FR3862924 mfd 5 - 3 - 43 NZ22897
XH8448-080 FR3852622 mfd 5 - 3 - 43 NZ22958
XH8448-087 FR3838752 mfd 5 - 3 - 43 NZ22899
XH8448-161 FR3838745 mfd 5 - 3 - 43
XH8448-199 FR ? ? ? ? mfd 5 - 3 - 43 NZ25422
XH8448-229 FR3863719 mfd 5 - 3 - 43 NZ23261
XH8448-252
XH8448-254 FR3863431 mfd 5 - 4 - 43
XH8448-273 FR3863445 NZ26023
XH8448-275 FR ? ? ? ? mfd 5 - 4 - 43
XH8448-322 FR3863983 mfd 5 - 4 - 43
XH8448-339 FR3864029 mfd 5 - 4 - 43
XH8448-377 FR3863573 mfd 5 May 43
XH8448-382 FR3863937 mfd. 5 May 43
XH8448-392 FR3864366 mfd 5 May 43
XH8448-394 FR3863668 mfd 5 May 43
XH8448-419 FR3863618 mfd 5 May 43
XH8448-427 FR3863894 mfd 5 May 43
XH8448-428 FR ? ? ? ? mfd 5 May 43
XH8448-452
XH8448-459 FR3863469 mfd 5 May 43
XH8448-481 FR3863988 mfd 5 May 43
XH8448-496 FR3863872 mfd 5 May 43
XH8448-497 FR3863875 mfd 5 May 43
XH8448-502 FR3863593 mfd 5 May 43
XH8448-564 FR ? ? ? ? mfd 5 May 43
XH8448-594 FR3863668 mfd 5 May 43
XH8448-606 FR3864085 mfd 5 May 43
XH8448-611 FR3864083 mfd 5 May 43
XH8448-622 FR3863893 mfd 5 4-43
XH8448-634 FR3864089 mfd 5 May 43
XH8448-650 FR3883923 mfd 5 May-43
XH8448-657 FR3864068 mfd 5 May 43
XH8448-718 FR3864330 mfd 5 June 43
XH8448-721 FR3864172 mfd 5 June 43
XH8448-742 FR3863886 mfd 5 June 43
XH8448-747 FR3963973 mfd 5 June 43
XH8448-833 FR3863827 mfd 5 June 43 NZ25791
XH8448-834 FR ? ? ? ? mfd 5 June 43
XH8448-857 FR3864045 mfd 5 June 43 NZ25526
XH8448-870 FR38635?4 mfd 5 June 43
XH9448-887 FR3863776 mfd 5 June 43
XH8448-890 FR ? ? ? ? mfd 5 June 43
XH8448-891 FR38638?2 NZ25051

Bob McNeill · #8 27-07-09, 13:14

Tony There must have been a few sold out this way as Tim V bought one of me years ago which came from Wellington shire, we drove it home it had a tank on back on timber tray

David_Hayward (RIP) · #9 27-07-09, 14:02

Inasmuch as it varies..because I have to rush out, here's my listing:

ALL S/M 2394: [ASSEMBLED BY G.M. NEW ZEALAND CODE XH]

XH8448-067
XH8448-073 ENGINE # FR3867782 MFGD. 5 - 3 – 43
XH8448-079 ENGINE # FR3862924 MFGD. 5 3-43
XH8448-080 ENGINE # FR3852622
XH8448-087 FR3838752 MFGD. 5 3-43
XH8448-161 ENGINE # FR3838745 MFGD. 5 3 43
XH8448-199 ENGINE # FR? MFGD. 5 3-43
XH8448-229 ENGINE # FR3863719 MFGD. 5 3-43
XH8448-252
XH8448-254 ENGINE # FR3863431 MFGD. 5 4-43
XH 8448-273 ENGINE # FR3863445
XH8448-275 MFGD. 5 4 43 ?
XH8448-322 ENGINE # FR3863983 MFGD. 5 4-43
XH8448-339 ENGINE # FR3864029 MFGD. 5-4-43
XH8448-377 ENGINE # FR3863573 MFGD. 5 5-43
XH8448-382 ENGINE # FR3863937 MFGD. 5 MAY 43
XH-8448-392 ENGINE # FR3864366MFGD. 5-5-43
XH8448-394 ENGINE # FR3863668 MFGD. 5 MAY 43
XH 8448-419 ENGINE # FR3863618 MFGD. 5 5-43
XH8448-427 ENGINE # FR3863894 MFGD. 5 5-43
XH8448-428 MFGD. 5 MAY 43
XH8448-452
XH-8448-459 ENGINE # FR3863469 MFGD. 5-5-43
XH8448-481 ENGINE # FR3863988 MFGD. 5-5-43
XH8448-496 ENGINE # FR3863872 MFGD. 5 5-43
XH8448-497 ENGINE # FR3,863875 MFGD. # 5- 5-43
XH8448-502 ENGINE # FR3863593 MFGD. 5 5-43
XH8448-564 MFGD. 5 MAY 43
XH8448-594 ENGINE # FR3863668 MFGD. 5 MAY 43
XH8448-606 ENGINE # FR3864085 MFGD. 5 MAY 43
XH8448-611 ENGINE # FR 3864083 MFGD. 5 MAY 43
XH8448-622 ENGINE # FR3863893 MFGD. 5 4-43
XH8448-634 ENGINE # FR3864089 MFGD. 5 MAY 43
XH8448-647 ENGINE # FR3864026 MFGD. 5 MAY 43
XH8448-650 ENGINE # FR3883923 MFGD. 5 MAY-43
XH8448-657 ENGINE # FR3864068 MFGD. 5 MAY 43
XH8448-718 ENGINE # FR3864330 MFGD. 5 JUNE 43
XH8448-721 ENGINE # FR3864172 MFGD. 5 JUNE 43
XH8448-742 ENGINE # FR3863886 MFGD. 5 JUNE 43
XH8448-747 ENGINE # PR3963973 DATE 5 JUNE 43
XH 8448-833 ENGINE # FR3863827 MFGD. 5 JUNE 43
XH8448-834 MFGD. 5 JUNE 43
XH8448-857 ENGINE # FR3864045 MFGD.5 JUNE 43
XH8448-870 ENGINE # FR38635?4 MFGD. 5 JUNE 43
XH9448-887 ENGINE # FR3863776 5 JUNE 43
XH8448-890 MFGD. 5 JUNE 43
XH 8448-891 ENGINE # FR38638?2
XH8448-903

I am sure that all were stamped XH-8448- etc. but am willing to be proven wrong! I have tried to get the date stamp as per actual plates.

Tony Smith · #10 28-09-09, 08:54

Bob McNeill has found yet another, No -518 in This Thread, so the list is now:

XH8448-073 FR3867782 mfd 5 - 3 – 43
XH8448-079 FR3862924 mfd 5 - 3 - 43 NZ22897
XH8448-080 FR3852622 mfd 5 - 3 - 43 NZ22958
XH8448-087 FR3838752 mfd 5 - 3 - 43 NZ22899
XH8448-161 FR3838745 mfd 5 - 3 - 43
XH8448-199 FR ? ? ? ? mfd 5 - 3 - 43 NZ25422
XH8448-229 FR3863719 mfd 5 - 3 - 43 NZ23261
XH8448-252
XH8448-254 FR3863431 mfd 5 - 4 - 43
XH8448-273 FR3863445 NZ26023
XH8448-275 FR ? ? ? ? mfd 5 - 4 - 43
XH8448-322 FR3863983 mfd 5 - 4 - 43
XH8448-339 FR3864029 mfd 5 - 4 - 43
XH8448-377 FR3863573 mfd 5 May 43
XH8448-382 FR3863937 mfd. 5 May 43
XH8448-392 FR3864366 mfd 5 May 43
XH8448-394 FR3863668 mfd 5 May 43
XH8448-419 FR3863618 mfd 5 May 43
XH8448-427 FR3863894 mfd 5 May 43
XH8448-428 FR ? ? ? ? mfd 5 May 43
XH8448-452
XH8448-459 FR3863469 mfd 5 May 43
XH8448-481 FR3863988 mfd 5 May 43
XH8448-496 FR3863872 mfd 5 May 43
XH8448-497 FR3863875 mfd 5 May 43
XH8448-502 FR3863593 mfd 5 May 43
XH8448-518 FR3864176 mfd 5-5-43 RN 68022
XH8448-564 FR ? ? ? ? mfd 5 May 43
XH8448-594 FR3863668 mfd 5 May 43
XH8448-606 FR3864085 mfd 5 May 43
XH8448-611 FR3864083 mfd 5 May 43
XH8448-622 FR3863893 mfd 5 4-43
XH8448-634 FR3864089 mfd 5 May 43
XH8448-650 FR3883923 mfd 5 May-43
XH8448-657 FR3864068 mfd 5 May 43
XH8448-718 FR3864330 mfd 5 June 43
XH8448-721 FR3864172 mfd 5 June 43
XH8448-742 FR3863886 mfd 5 June 43
XH8448-747 FR3963973 mfd 5 June 43
XH8448-833 FR3863827 mfd 5 June 43 NZ25791
XH8448-834 FR ? ? ? ? mfd 5 June 43
XH8448-857 FR3864045 mfd 5 June 43 NZ25526
XH8448-870 FR38635?4 mfd 5 June 43
XH8448-887 FR3863776 mfd 5 June 43
XH8448-890 FR ? ? ? ? mfd 5 June 43
XH8448-891 FR38638?2 NZ25051[/QUOTE]

David_Hayward (RIP) · #11 28-09-09, 11:58

Just to go back...XH = GM Overseas Operations code for New Zealand. It related to the two plants, and then around 1955 it changed to 'NZ' for some reason!

It appears as though XH8448, or the equivalent in South Africa...XG844x, indicates a model number. GM of Canada tended to differentiate models by destination, with 'X1' to 'X9' used as a suffix. In this case the stamper has added '-' then the sequential number starting with '001' which is interesting, since it could have been '1', and it looks rather neat. However whomever did the stamping varied the date format, between 'US' and 'British' styles.

Also noteworthy is that the 1943ish-on GM of Canada plate change (there was evidently a running-change, e.g. with the C60S 1942-3 Models) brought in a new plate with 'DATE OF M[ANU]F[ACTURIN]G' instead of 'MANUFACTURED' or 'ASSEMBLED'. This plate design was not used post-war, and was evidently restricted to CMPs unless anyone knows of a 1943-44 MCP with one?

Tony Smith · #12 15-02-10, 05:25

Another has turned up in the thread "CMPs for sale in NZ", so the list is now:

XH8448-073 FR3867782 mfd 5 - 3 – 43
XH8448-079 FR3862924 mfd 5 - 3 - 43 NZ22897
XH8448-080 FR3852622 mfd 5 - 3 - 43 NZ22958
XH8448-087 FR3838752 mfd 5 - 3 - 43 NZ22899
XH8448-161 FR3838745 mfd 5 - 3 - 43
XH8448-199 FR ? ? ? ? mfd 5 - 3 - 43 NZ25422
XH8448-229 FR3863719 mfd 5 - 3 - 43 NZ23261
XH8448-252
XH8448-254 FR3863431 mfd 5 - 4 - 43
XH8448-273 FR3863445 NZ26023
XH8448-275 FR ? ? ? ? mfd 5 - 4 - 43
XH8448-322 FR3863983 mfd 5 - 4 - 43
XH8448-339 FR3864029 mfd 5 - 4 - 43
XH8448-377 FR3863573 mfd 5 May 43
XH8448-382 FR3863937 mfd. 5 May 43
XH8448-392 FR3864366 mfd 5 May 43
XH8448-394 FR3863668 mfd 5 May 43
XH8448-419 FR3863618 mfd 5 May 43
XH8448-427 FR3863894 mfd 5 May 43
XH8448-428 FR ? ? ? ? mfd 5 May 43
XH8448-436 FR3864114 mfd 5 May 43 NZ 25690
XH8448-452
XH8448-459 FR3863469 mfd 5 May 43
XH8448-481 FR3863988 mfd 5 May 43
XH8448-496 FR3863872 mfd 5 May 43
XH8448-497 FR3863875 mfd 5 May 43
XH8448-502 FR3863593 mfd 5 May 43
XH8448-518 FR3864176 mfd 5-5-43 RN 68022
XH8448-564 FR ? ? ? ? mfd 5 May 43
XH8448-594 FR3863668 mfd 5 May 43
XH8448-606 FR3864085 mfd 5 May 43
XH8448-611 FR3864083 mfd 5 May 43
XH8448-622 FR3863893 mfd 5 4-43
XH8448-634 FR3864089 mfd 5 May 43
XH8448-650 FR3883923 mfd 5 May-43
XH8448-657 FR3864068 mfd 5 May 43
XH8448-718 FR3864330 mfd 5 June 43
XH8448-721 FR3864172 mfd 5 June 43
XH8448-742 FR3863886 mfd 5 June 43
XH8448-747 FR3963973 mfd 5 June 43
XH8448-833 FR3863827 mfd 5 June 43 NZ25791
XH8448-834 FR ? ? ? ? mfd 5 June 43
XH8448-857 FR3864045 mfd 5 June 43 NZ25526
XH8448-870 FR38635?4 mfd 5 June 43
XH8448-887 FR3863776 mfd 5 June 43
XH8448-890 FR ? ? ? ? mfd 5 June 43
XH8448-891 FR38638?2 NZ25051

Tony Smith · #13 26-08-21, 11:12

https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/shep...itz/1277925967

Here's a funny one posing as an F15 (it might be an F15A chassis, it has 8 stud wheels?), but it does at least have a new C8AX plate for us so the list is now:

XH8448-073 FR3867782 mfd 5 - 3 – 43
XH8448-079 FR3862924 mfd 5 - 3 - 43 NZ22897
XH8448-080 FR3852622 mfd 5 - 3 - 43 NZ22958
XH8448-087 FR3838752 mfd 5 - 3 - 43 NZ22899
XH8448-161 FR3838745 mfd 5 - 3 - 43
XH8448-199 FR ? ? ? ? mfd 5 - 3 - 43 NZ25422
XH8448-229 FR3863719 mfd 5 - 3 - 43 NZ23261
XH8448-252
XH8448-254 FR3863431 mfd 5 - 4 - 43
XH8448-273 FR3863445 NZ26023
XH8448-275 FR ? ? ? ? mfd 5 - 4 - 43
XH8448-304 FR3863576 mfd 5 4 - 43
XH8448-322 FR3863983 mfd 5 - 4 - 43
XH8448-339 FR3864029 mfd 5 - 4 - 43
XH8448-377 FR3863573 mfd 5 May 43
XH8448-382 FR3863937 mfd. 5 May 43
XH8448-392 FR3864366 mfd 5 May 43
XH8448-394 FR3863668 mfd 5 May 43
XH8448-419 FR3863618 mfd 5 May 43
XH8448-427 FR3863894 mfd 5 May 43
XH8448-428 FR ? ? ? ? mfd 5 May 43
XH8448-452
XH8448-459 FR3863469 mfd 5 May 43
XH8448-481 FR3863988 mfd 5 May 43
XH8448-496 FR3863872 mfd 5 May 43
XH8448-497 FR3863875 mfd 5 May 43
XH8448-502 FR3863593 mfd 5 May 43
XH8448-564 FR ? ? ? ? mfd 5 May 43
XH8448-594 FR3863668 mfd 5 May 43
XH8448-606 FR3864085 mfd 5 May 43
XH8448-611 FR3864083 mfd 5 May 43
XH8448-622 FR3863893 mfd 5 4-43
XH8448-634 FR3864089 mfd 5 May 43
XH8448-650 FR3883923 mfd 5 May-43
XH8448-657 FR3864068 mfd 5 May 43
XH8448-718 FR3864330 mfd 5 June 43
XH8448-721 FR3864172 mfd 5 June 43
XH8448-742 FR3863886 mfd 5 June 43
XH8448-747 FR3963973 mfd 5 June 43
XH8448-833 FR3863827 mfd 5 June 43 NZ25791
XH8448-834 FR ? ? ? ? mfd 5 June 43
XH8448-857 FR3864045 mfd 5 June 43 NZ25526
XH8448-870 FR38635?4 mfd 5 June 43
XH9448-887 FR3863776 mfd 5 June 43
XH8448-890 FR ? ? ? ? mfd 5 June 43
XH8448-891 FR38638?2 NZ25051

Tony Smith · #14 01-09-21, 11:15

I have been contacted by a member who has 2 new vehicles for the list. Pictures to follow!

XH8448-073 FR3867782 mfd 5 - 3 – 43
XH8448-079 FR3862924 mfd 5 - 3 - 43 NZ22897
XH8448-080 FR3852622 mfd 5 - 3 - 43 NZ22958
XH8448-087 FR3838752 mfd 5 - 3 - 43 NZ22899
XH8448-161 FR3838745 mfd 5 - 3 - 43
XH8448-199 FR ? ? ? ? mfd 5 - 3 - 43 NZ25422
XH8448-229 FR3863719 mfd 5 - 3 - 43 NZ23261
XH8448-252
XH8448-254 FR3863431 mfd 5 - 4 - 43
XH8448-273 FR3863445 NZ26023
XH8448-275 FR ? ? ? ? mfd 5 - 4 - 43
XH8448-304 FR3863576 mfd 5 4 - 43
XH8448-322 FR3863983 mfd 5 - 4 - 43
XH8448-339 FR3864029 mfd 5 - 4 - 43
XH8448-377 FR3863573 mfd 5 May 43
XH8448-382 FR3863937 mfd. 5 May 43
XH8448-392 FR3864366 mfd 5 May 43
XH8448-394 FR3863668 mfd 5 May 43
XH8448-419 FR3863618 mfd 5 May 43
XH8448-423 FR3863597 mfd 5 5-43
XH8448-427 FR3863894 mfd 5 May 43
XH8448-428 FR ? ? ? ? mfd 5 May 43
XH8448-452
XH8448-459 FR3863469 mfd 5 May 43
XH8448-481 FR3863988 mfd 5 May 43
XH8448-496 FR3863872 mfd 5 May 43
XH8448-497 FR3863875 mfd 5 May 43
XH8448-502 FR3863593 mfd 5 May 43
XH8448-564 FR ? ? ? ? mfd 5 May 43
XH8448-594 FR3863668 mfd 5 May 43
XH8448-606 FR3864085 mfd 5 May 43
XH8448-611 FR3864083 mfd 5 May 43
XH8448-622 FR3863893 mfd 5 4-43
XH8448-634 FR3864089 mfd 5 May 43
XH8448-650 FR3883923 mfd 5 May-43
XH8448-657 FR3864068 mfd 5 May 43
XH8448-660 FR3863896 mfd 5 May 43
XH8448-718 FR3864330 mfd 5 June 43
XH8448-721 FR3864172 mfd 5 June 43
XH8448-742 FR3863886 mfd 5 June 43
XH8448-747 FR3963973 mfd 5 June 43
XH8448-833 FR3863827 mfd 5 June 43 NZ25791
XH8448-834 FR ? ? ? ? mfd 5 June 43
XH8448-857 FR3864045 mfd 5 June 43 NZ25526
XH8448-870 FR38635?4 mfd 5 June 43
XH9448-887 FR3863776 mfd 5 June 43
XH8448-890 FR ? ? ? ? mfd 5 June 43
XH8448-891 FR38638?2 NZ25051