C8AX production

[Rob Beale]

to keep things on track in this thread:


“Dave

I have a list from around 1949 compiled from returns after the war, so many early vehicles must have been disposed of by then: nearly all the first 1800 NZ census numbers are missing.
There is no detail of chassis serials recorded.

The list includes 491 C8AX listed including GS (393), Wireless (50), Ambulance 4Str (31), LP Water (13), LP Disinfector (2) and Compressor (2)
The last 3 are news to me. I want to see a photo of them now!

The LP water cart is described in another memo as 132 gal (the MW Bedford is 200 gal)

Rob”

“Rob,
It was probably some abortion ,using 3 x 44 gal drums.
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Bluebell”


Good Point Lynn

The maths show 3 x 44 gal = 132 gal

Also 1 gal weighs 10 pound, so 132 gal weighs 1320 lb

8cwt x 112 lb = 896 lb, 15cwt x 112 lb = 1680 lb

Given that the NZ army rated the 8cwt as both 15 cwt and 1 ton post war,
I surmise that the water cart may have retained a GS deck, with 3 drums perhaps plumbed together to a water bar with taps like on the rear of the MW water cart.

Rob

[Tony Smith]

Originally Posted by rynoki

a 1945 C15A with a good original tray.
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Mo...-208503655.htm

Rynoki and Lynn Eades have spotted this one for sale on TradeMe.

Chassis: XH8448-857
Engine: FR3864045
Date: 5 JUNE 43
NZ Army number: NZ25526

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by Tony Smith

this one for sale on TradeMe

Don´t those front fenders / wings look a little wide for a C8AX? Could they actually be ones off a 15-cwt?

[Brian Gough]

Hanno,

You have sharp eyes but it is correct. The C8AX does indeed have the wider front fenders of the C15A.

Brian

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by Brian Gough

You have sharp eyes but it is correct. The C8AX does indeed have the wider front fenders of the C15A.

Brian,

Others would say I´m wasting my time, but thanks. . .

So do I understand correctly all C8AX´s were delivered with the wider 15-cwt fenders (so this example is not an exeption to the rule)?

Thanks,
Hanno

[Rob Beale]

The only narrow guards I have seen are modified wide ones which still have original holes.

I believe there is a reference in Wheels and Tracks, either issues 1/2 or a later issue in the 'What's new' column where Ross Hopkins' C8AX was pictured. Bart related that the preliminary parts list C8AX had the C15A part numbers for the front guards.

Back then Bart thought there were only a small number of survivors in NZ, when in fact they are still numerous, and a few ex Solomons campaign C8AX seem to have ended up in Aussie.

Rob

[Rob Beale]

The national rally of the NZMVCC was held in Gisborne this Easter 09.

From front to rear:Ambulance, Radio Shack, General Service, Heavy Utility.

Rob

[Mike K]

Originally Posted by Rob Beale

and a few ex Solomons campaign C8AX seem to have ended up in Aussie.

Rob

Yes , more and more of them are turning up over here ...nearly all of them are found in NSW , indicating a disposal point within that state . Back in the 70's we thought they were rare over here , but not anymore. I guess a few ship loads of them were shipped in ..must have been a bargain deal for the buyer , being sold 'in situ' on the Pacific Islands, made the deal less attractive for many prospective buyers maybe. The NZ Govt. obviously didn't want to be involved in shipping them home and sold the lot 'as is'.

Seems odd that the trucks found here were actually in an active theatre of operations, the Solomons .. but the examples left in NZ didn't see any angry shots fired.



Mike

[Tony Smith]

Originally Posted by Hanno Spoelstra

Don´t those front fenders / wings look a little wide for a C8AX? Could they actually be ones off a 15-cwt?

Correct, the C8AX-01 Parts List does show the same part number for the 4 parts of the front fenders/wings/guards as those listed for the C15A and C60L in those parts lists.

[Lynn Eades]

I have presented info from this thread to the seller.

[Tony Smith]

The thought occurred to me that the evolving list of serials should also include NZ Army numbers where known, so I have included that in the latest addition.

Any numbers known for vehicles already on the list?

[Rob Beale]

Xh8448-073 engine # fr3867782 mfgd. 5 - 3 – 43
xh8448-079 engine # fr3862924 mfgd. 5 3-43 nz22897
xh8448-080 engine # fr3852622 nz22958
xh8448-087 fr3838752 mfgd. 5 3-43 nz22899
xh8448-161 engine # fr3838745 mfgd. 5 3 43
xh8448-199 engine # fr? Mfgd. 5 3-43 nz25422
xh8448-229 engine # fr3863719 mfgd. 5 3-43 nz23261
xh8448-252
xh8448-254 engine # fr3863431 mfgd. 5 4-43
xh8448-273 engine # fr3863445 nz26023
xh8448-275 mfgd. 5 4 43 ?
Xh8448-322 engine # fr3863983 mfgd. 5 4-43
xh8448-339 engine # fr3864029 mfgd. 5-4-43
xh8448-377 engine # fr3863573 mfgd. 5 5-43
xh8448-382 engine # fr3863937 mfgd. 5 may 43
xh8448-392 engine # fr3864366mfgd. 5-5-43
xh8448-394 engine # fr3.863668 mfgd. 5 may 43
xh8448-419 engine # fr3863618 mfgd. 5 5-43
xh8448-427 engine # fr3863894 mfgd. 5 5-43
xh8448-428 mfgd. 5 may 43
xh8448-452
xh8448-459 engine # fr3863469 mfgd. 5-5-43
xh8448-481 engine # fr3863988 mfgd. 5-5-43
xh8448-496 engine # fr3863872 mfgd. 5 5-43
xh8448-497 engine # fr3863875 mfgd. # 5- 5-43
xh8448-502 engine # fr3863593 mfgd. 5 5-43
xh8448-564 mfgd. 5 may 43
xh8448-594 engine # fr3863668 mfgd. 5 may 43
xh8448-606 engine # fr3864085 mfgd. 5 may 43
xh8448-611 engine # fr 3864083 mfgd. 5 may 43
xh8448-622 engine # fr3863893 mfgd. 5 4-43
xh8448-634 engine # fr3864089 mfgd. 5 may 43
xh8448-650 engine # fr3883923 mfgd. 5 may-43
xh8448-657 engine # fr3864068 mfgd. 5 may 43
xh8448-718 engine # fr3864330 mfgd. 5 june 43
xh8448-721 engine # fr3864172 mfgd. 5 june 43
xh8448-747 engine # pr3,963,973 date 5 june 43
xh8448-833 engine # fr3863827 mfgd. 5 june 43 nz25791
xh8448-834 mfgd. 5 june 43
xh8448-870 engine # fr38635?4 mfgd. 5 june 43
xh9448-887 engine # fr3863776 5 june 43
xh8448-890 mfgd. 5 june 43
xh8448-891 engine # fr38638?2 nz25051
xh8448-903