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Old 21-06-08, 04:50
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David Hardway, could you post some closeups of that mount from different angles, preferably with a ruler in place to see the dimensions? That's just what I need to go with my Motley seat when it gets here. Could your friend be convinced to part with it?
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Old 21-06-08, 06:28
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Hi David

I will ask however i was going to try myself as i have two brens and an MW Bedford i will go and take some more photos i did take 6 but it was not until they were developed i realised there was nothing there for a scale

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Old 21-06-08, 21:43
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It 's hard to tell from one picture to which mount this parts belongs. More pictures could make it easier.

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Old 23-06-08, 07:39
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A couple more

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Old 23-06-08, 07:42
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Last ones for now next lot in camera

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Old 27-06-08, 04:58
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Here's a couple of pix from Tools of the Trade. The mounts on the carriers in 1941 don't have any springs for counterbalancing. The Chev Cab 12 water truck doesn't have a roof hatch and I thought all 12 cabs had them.
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1942-44 Cab 13 F15A x 5
1942 cab 13 F15A with 2B1 box
1943 cab 13 F15A with 2H1 box
1943 Cab 13 C8A HUP
1944 Cab 13 C15A with 2C1 box
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Old 27-06-08, 06:38
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The pogo stick type mount on the carriers have a spring in the shaft to smooth out the Bren Guns ride. I always found the Carrier's AA setup to be fairly high.....no need for a counterbalance spring.

There were some of these carrier mounts made up in limited numbers years back. With all the carriers on the go these days, it would be nice if someone did another run of them.
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Old 27-06-08, 07:56
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The Chev Cab 12 water truck doesn't have a roof hatch and I thought all 12 cabs had them.
Cab 12's only had the hatch if it was required and not all had them.
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Old 23-02-09, 22:13
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I downloaded some of those Small Arms Training pamphlets and came across this one.
http://www.weapons.org.uk/
This twin Vickers setup needed a second truck to carry supplies and the rest of the crew. It seems pretty labour intensive when compared with the twin Bren setup.
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1940 Cab 11 F15A w/ Chev rear ends
1941 Cab 12 F15A
1942-44 Cab 13 F15A x 5
1942 cab 13 F15A with 2B1 box
1943 cab 13 F15A with 2H1 box
1943 Cab 13 C8A HUP
1944 Cab 13 C15A with 2C1 box
1943 Cletrac M2 High Speed Tractor
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Old 26-01-14, 05:45
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Default Bren AA mounts

Incredible finds gents. Incredible.

I learn more on the subject of Bren mounts reading this forum than visiting the War Museum in Ottawa.

Whe we compare the American way of mounting their 1919A4 and BAR with the Commonwealth way of mounting their Bren's , Lewis and Breda's, don't you think the Commonwealth way was a little overly complicated ?

Take the Bren tripod ( quadripod in fact ) , have you ever seen a more doubtfull piece of ... equipment ? I own and use one by the way.I had to examine it up close and personal ,i could'nt believe what i saw in the pictures.And the subject AA mount ?

David and friends , congratulations on finding parts and wanting to reconstruct one . But sheee's , what did they ever think ? A simple pintle would of been too simple, too american ?

My two cents. Keep up the good work.


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Old 27-01-14, 23:32
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Hi Robert

Could you set up a Browning on a fixed line (or to be more accurate, on several fixed lines) on the simple American mount? Not a problem on the Bren 'tripod'. It could also be used as a ground mounted AA mounting for the Bren. Though I grant you that I would not like to be the guy who had to carry it to where it was needed.

On the other hand, Alex (about three posts up) says this thread is about Motley mounts. If you look at the top, it is about Bren LMG mounts and I am surprised that no one has mentioned the Lakeman mount, seen on many British tanks in the earlier part of the war.

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