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Old 22-05-08, 12:29
Rob Beale Rob Beale is offline
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Default Cheers Dave,

I was looking at the first image in Jim's opening post, and I reckon there are remains of the original armour in the back right corner, which would have been similar to a universal. I would like to see a photo of the left side to see if that is similar to the right side of the Waiouru Bren, with only the track guard at the rear.

I have driven a Mk I in NZ, and was luck enough to get a drive in a Mk II at Beltring in 2001, thanks to Nigel Watson. Most of my carrier driving has been LP2 / 2A carriers.

The Bren I drove has the smaller motor in it, but is quite peppy due to the lower weight without the universals rear armour.

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Old 22-05-08, 13:06
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Please post a pile more detail photos.
That is a most amazing find. According to Nigels book it has hinged armour plate at the rear, in keeping with what see in the photo.
I note that the air ducting is rounded on the out side not two flat sides as found in a universal. I am suprised that it made it to this side of the world, and it may be the only Mk1 Scout left anywhere.
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Old 22-05-08, 13:12
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According to Nigels book," T5255 to T5550 (contract T6024) 296 units were built by Aveling Barford
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Old 22-05-08, 13:14
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Default Another English carrier

Jim,
It is good to see that another one has surfaced of these rare beasties in Oz.
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Old 22-05-08, 13:21
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The Scout looks like a universal when veiwed from the right side and from the left side, has the long box on the top of the guard.
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Old 22-05-08, 13:41
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More pictures .
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Old 22-05-08, 13:51
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Can you put up a picture of the I.D. plate?
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Old 22-05-08, 14:03
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The driver's compartment especially where the instrument panel sits. As it was obtained from the original owner, after the military that is, what is its provenance and did the owner have any annecdotes or photographs?

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Old 30-08-09, 01:56
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The Scout looks like a universal when veiwed from the right side and from the left side, has the long box on the top of the guard.
The Scout in the picture Lynn posts is most likely the prototype or certainly one of the first. It is based on the Machine Gun Carrier. Main recogniseable difference from the photograph is the lower position of the front track adjusting idler wheel, and the subsequent sloped mudguards over it. It looks as this great find that Jim shows has the early Bren features.
Wouldn't it be great if it turned out to be the one pictured entering Fort Capuzzi in North Africa?

Look forward to seeing it come to life.

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Default Surely not ?

Hello again Nigel,

Truth is sometimes stranger than fiction.

I have been spending a lot of late nights examining Scout carrier pics from all over the world on the net with a strong magnifying glass. Apart from the inescapable fact that my Scout (RMY 682 or RMY 683) is within one or two digits of the Fort Capuzzi vehicle RMY 681, my left hand rear track guard is dented and distorted in an identical pattern to that shown in the Capuzzi photograph!
What are the chances they are one and the same vehicle ?

I would love to know for certain...

Cheers

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Old 13-09-09, 02:13
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Hello again Nigel,

Truth is sometimes stranger than fiction.

I have been spending a lot of late nights examining Scout carrier pics from all over the world on the net with a strong magnifying glass. Apart from the inescapable fact that my Scout (RMY 682 or RMY 683) is within one or two digits of the Fort Capuzzi vehicle RMY 681, my left hand rear track guard is dented and distorted in an identical pattern to that shown in the Capuzzi photograph!
What are the chances they are one and the same vehicle ?

I would love to know for certain...

Cheers

Phill
Nigel, do you have a higher resolution copy of the picture from your book? What is the source, might there be other identifying pics in the series?

Phil, Could post a comparison shot from the same angle to confirm the ID?

PS the name of the Fort is Capuzzo. It copped a bit of artillery and chipped part of the name in the masonry.
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