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			Here's a pick of the Waiouru one. 
		
		
		
			(It has NZ fleet no on the left side, and T number on the right side) Rob  | 
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			yea rob i got that, thought you wanted to know what the diffrence between driveing them was, as you worded it.  ow well    
		
		
		
		
		
		
			![]() did that carrier have armor installed on the rear? i know about the scouts.... there was a rebuild system in the UK that took the older scout / MG carriers and rebuilt them to UC MKI standards, then there was another where they took MKIs and rebuilt them to MKII standards latter. was wondering if it could be a rebuild due to it looking like it had some armor on the rear at one time. 
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	44 GPW, 43 MB, 42 trailer, 43 cckw 44 MORRIS C8, M-3A1 SCOUT CAR 41 U/C, 42 U/C x 2, 44 U/C 42 6LB GUN and the list keeps growing, and growing.... i need help LOL  | 
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			I was looking at the first image in Jim's opening post, and I reckon there are remains of the original armour in the back right corner, which would have been similar to a universal. I would like to see a photo of the left side to see if that is similar to the right side of the Waiouru Bren, with only the track guard at the rear. 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
	I have driven a Mk I in NZ, and was luck enough to get a drive in a Mk II at Beltring in 2001, thanks to Nigel Watson. Most of my carrier driving has been LP2 / 2A carriers. The Bren I drove has the smaller motor in it, but is quite peppy due to the lower weight without the universals rear armour. Rob  | 
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			Please post a pile more detail photos.  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			That is a most amazing find. According to Nigels book it has hinged armour plate at the rear, in keeping with what see in the photo. I note that the air ducting is rounded on the out side not two flat sides as found in a universal. I am suprised that it made it to this side of the world, and it may be the only Mk1 Scout left anywhere. 
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	Bluebell Carrier Armoured O.P. No1 Mk3 W. T84991 Carrier Bren No2.Mk.I. NewZealand Railways. NZR.6. Dodge WC55. 37mm Gun Motor Carriage M6 Jeep Mb #135668 So many questions....  | 
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			According to Nigels book," T5255 to T5550 (contract T6024) 296 units were built by Aveling Barford
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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	Bluebell Carrier Armoured O.P. No1 Mk3 W. T84991 Carrier Bren No2.Mk.I. NewZealand Railways. NZR.6. Dodge WC55. 37mm Gun Motor Carriage M6 Jeep Mb #135668 So many questions....  | 
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			Jim, 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			It is good to see that another one has surfaced of these rare beasties in Oz. 
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			The Scout looks like a universal when veiwed from the right side and from the left side, has the long box on the top of the guard.
		 
		
		
		
			
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	Bluebell Carrier Armoured O.P. No1 Mk3 W. T84991 Carrier Bren No2.Mk.I. NewZealand Railways. NZR.6. Dodge WC55. 37mm Gun Motor Carriage M6 Jeep Mb #135668 So many questions....  | 
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			More pictures . 
		
		
		
			Regards Jim S. 
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	jim sewell cmp and cckw  | 
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 Wouldn't it be great if it turned out to be the one pictured entering Fort Capuzzi in North Africa? Look forward to seeing it come to life. Nigel 
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	He that blaws in the stour fills his ain e'en 1942 Ford Utility 11YF 1942 10cwt GS Trailer  | 
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