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Old 21-05-08, 21:53
Rob Beale Rob Beale is offline
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Default Amazing find Jim

Could you get a pic of the other side please?

I have driven the Carrier Bren Mk II at Waiouru a few times. It would be great to compare the two, pity they are so far apart!

Rob
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Old 22-05-08, 03:53
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rob
i have a MKI and a MKII the only real diffrence is starting of the two. on a MKI you have a starter button and selonoid on the starter. on a MKII you have the pull handle on the left side. less to break.

im thinking of getting my 3rd carrier up and running soon, im thinking of moving the drivers station to the proper (USA) side on this one

thanks
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Old 22-05-08, 07:03
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Default Dave, these are not Universals,

The Scout Carrier and the Bren Carrier predate the Universal Carrier.

These are 3 man only, with one side open at the rear, Left side on a Scout, Right side on the Bren.

They are probably the rarest of the carriers (except for the contemporary Cavalry Carrier and the earlier prewar types)

Hence my wish to see the pics of the scout

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Old 22-05-08, 07:07
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Default Bren

Here's a pick of the Waiouru one.

(It has NZ fleet no on the left side, and T number on the right side)
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Old 22-05-08, 07:16
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yea rob i got that, thought you wanted to know what the diffrence between driveing them was, as you worded it. ow well

did that carrier have armor installed on the rear? i know about the scouts....

there was a rebuild system in the UK that took the older scout / MG carriers and rebuilt them to UC MKI standards, then there was another where they took MKIs and rebuilt them to MKII standards latter. was wondering if it could be a rebuild due to it looking like it had some armor on the rear at one time.
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Old 22-05-08, 11:29
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Default Cheers Dave,

I was looking at the first image in Jim's opening post, and I reckon there are remains of the original armour in the back right corner, which would have been similar to a universal. I would like to see a photo of the left side to see if that is similar to the right side of the Waiouru Bren, with only the track guard at the rear.

I have driven a Mk I in NZ, and was luck enough to get a drive in a Mk II at Beltring in 2001, thanks to Nigel Watson. Most of my carrier driving has been LP2 / 2A carriers.

The Bren I drove has the smaller motor in it, but is quite peppy due to the lower weight without the universals rear armour.

Rob
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Old 22-05-08, 12:06
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Default Jim

Please post a pile more detail photos.
That is a most amazing find. According to Nigels book it has hinged armour plate at the rear, in keeping with what see in the photo.
I note that the air ducting is rounded on the out side not two flat sides as found in a universal. I am suprised that it made it to this side of the world, and it may be the only Mk1 Scout left anywhere.
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