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Old 08-10-20, 16:52
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Wow that Image from Spitfire IV is spot on , I thought it was II because the paint remains on the weld were almost completely gone , the first I is clear .
Rest is also spot on , the additional aerial bracket is on the same spot , hole for cable goes through hole in turret wall,No side skirt strips , and additional armour plate position is the same .

About the aerial on the right front on Avalon , and on mine , there is more room in Avalon , then in a standard Gun tank , in mine there is only the space in front of the ammo bin , a 19 set will not fit In there !

Was Spitfire IV also involved in the Battle around Overloon ?

This is very interesting , it is another bit of history from the Netherlands Surviving , so I have to Speed up the Restauration .
I will take some pictures from the turret .
Hello Maurice,

Great to know that another Sherman from a Flail unit survived and will be restored!
Did you find any trace of a turret number on your tank? It is possible, or rather, it is likely, that there was none, because it appears that replacement tanks in Flail regiments were seldom given a turret number (and SPITFIRE IV is the third avatar of the original...), but it would be nice to find one!

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Old 08-10-20, 17:33
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Michel , no traces on turret anymore , too long outside took the paint off , just on the side of the tank there was paint left , and the T number showed through , so cleaned it and measured it up , to put it back on the same spot , Spitfire was also just by accident found , there was a scratch through the remaining paint and showed a bit of white paint , and after sanding and guessing it must have been spitfire II (should be IV then )
I got almost the whole interior complete , just the layout of the wireless system I have to work out , The tank was built on the 9th February 1943
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Old 08-10-20, 19:08
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Michel , no traces on turret anymore , too long outside took the paint off , just on the side of the tank there was paint left , and the T number showed through , so cleaned it and measured it up , to put it back on the same spot , Spitfire was also just by accident found , there was a scratch through the remaining paint and showed a bit of white paint , and after sanding and guessing it must have been spitfire II (should be IV then )
I got almost the whole interior complete , just the layout of the wireless system I have to work out , The tank was built on the 9th February 1943
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Old 08-10-20, 20:14
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Another thing about Avalon that puzzles me are the impacts on the turret , on the old pictures I can`t see them , and the protection track links are in front of them ?
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Old 09-10-20, 00:07
Alex van de Wetering Alex van de Wetering is offline
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Another thing about Avalon that puzzles me are the impacts on the turret , on the old pictures I can`t see them , and the protection track links are in front of them ?
Maurice, they are indeed difficult to see on most early post-war pictures, but here is one attached that does show them. It seems the rounds went straight through the track armour.


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The extra aerial mount on the right hand side of the turret above the lifting eye is a common British (and presumably Canadian) addition.
On closer inspection I also see some small weld remains next to the top left corner of the track links.....maybe Avalon did indeed have this extra aerial mount.
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