Info needed: correct colours for WWII Aust vehicles

[Mrs Vampire]

Well Thanks for that Mike Cecil

Here am I thinking I am doing this for the good of all but it turns out I am just doing it to save myself a trip To Canberra . And as for having documents cleared I have done a bit of that too

Well with that that's me out if it I've had enough

[Lang]

Tony

A lot of the trainers were all, or mostly fabric. Even the most advanced aircraft at that time had fabric control surfaces which require dope not paint. The engine cowls on Tiger Moths, Ansons, Wirraways etc used paint but often the whole lot was just hit with dope which is not a perfect coating for those surfaces.

I think you might be right about using the standard paint on metal surfaces. It certainly was not long lasting as you can see from colour aircraft photos. Aircraft always got scruffy quickly until the advent of two pack paints in 70/80 period.

Lang

[Bob Carriere]

Sides have been taken and there are no winner but a few ruffled feathers.

I have followed this thread since the beginning and appreciate all the efforts you (collectively) have made to sort out the issue. It has unearthed a whole bunch of historical information precious to our hobby.

But alas history repeats itself. For 4 years military and elected officials have argued about the shades, tone, durability of paint and who would make the most money from the contracts.

.....and now since March 2013, for 4 years, we have done almost the same thing. There are no winners but our hobby now has a whole different appreciation of the issue of "PAINT" ........... then and now!!!!!

I am always amazed about the historical accuracy of our many restorations.
I have sand blasted to bare metal, washed with phosphoric acid, used POR 15 coating, a urethane binder coat and 2 or 3 OD green coats of paint on a vehicle that lasted, in my case 77 years, without more than a very very light OD coat of paint with no evidence of primers or glossy undercoat. I have concluded that my truck could now last another 177 years ...... whatever shade of green it is.

Thank you all for the interesting read and I hope no one feels ruffled by all the different facts, opinions and/or preferences.

Cheers

PS.....not sure how many of you remember the B.T.B. title that was conferred to me by fellow Aussies....... I use it with pride.

[Richard Farrant]

A bit off topic as this is regarding British paint in early 1950's but is about poor quality paint being supplied to army, if it happened then it could easily have happened in wartime.
The attached is an excellent research document from Clive Elliott which he posted on HMVF forum:

http://hmvf.co.uk/pdf/British%20Army...n%20Paints.pdf

The early part of the article refers to the quality issue.

regards, Richard

[Mike K]

When you think about it, it took the automotive industry many decades before the owned up the fact that paint in its many forms , was not a good long term rust preventative.

Anybody here own a Holden in the 50's 60's 70's ? They were absolute rust buckets and what did GMH do about it ..nothing of course . GMH wanted you to buy a new Holden each 4 years or so.

Paint back then was porous and eventually good old H2O got through to the steel .

[Richard Seymour]

Originally Posted by Mike Kelly

When you think about it, it took the automotive industry many decades before the owned up the fact that paint in its many forms , was not a good long term rust preventative.

Anybody here own a Holden in the 50's 60's 70's ? They were absolute rust buckets and what did GMH do about it ..nothing of course . GMH wanted you to buy a new Holden each 4 years or so.

Paint back then was porous and eventually good old H2O got through to the steel .

Not just Holden either

[Mike Cecil]

http://milepegsnt.com/site/vehicle-camouflage-markings/

This site may be of some interest. I think a link to the site's home page may have been posted before somewhere on the forum? Nevertheless, still relates to this thread.

Mike

[Hanno Spoelstra]

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Originally Posted by Jane Doe

Well Thanks for that Mike Cecil

Here am I thinking I am doing this for the good of all but it turns out I am just doing it to save myself a trip To Canberra . And as for having documents cleared I have done a bit of that too

Well with that that's me out if it I've had enough