WTB Ansul 5# extinguisher

[Jon Skagfeld]

Chris: My 5# Ansul is RED. Are you mixing up the larger Purple K?

Google Ansul...that's where I got mine as well as the 7077 bracket.

[rob love]

Jon
Any that I ever saw in service from the late 70s until present were blue. There were some red ones at the local milsurp scrap yard, but they were either older or of an earlier design with a rounded bottom.

[chris vickery]

I saw that Greg Wright had some on his milsurp website but they are the red Iltis style ones.
Considering that I want to maintain the appearance of a mid to late 70's Jeep, I do require the blue one.
Rob, is the bracket special?

[rob love]

Bracket is commercial. Here is one on ebay. It was on before and received no bids so you may just get it for 98 cents.
http://cgi.ebay.ca/New-Vehicle-Brack...item2c5a9b9832

[rob love]

Originally Posted by chris vickery

I saw that Greg Wright had some on his milsurp website but they are the red Iltis style ones.

I have never seen a red one in an Ilits. Perhaps Ontario uses a different supply depot than the rest of the CF?

[chris vickery]

I am just going by what is advertised, could be wrong but have seen mention of red Ansuls in CF service...

[chris vickery]

Hi Rob, I found an Ansul on Kijiji at $75, good price I think...
Just have to see if I can get it shipped

[rob love]

Just in case there ends up being a debate about the color of the extinguisher, I would offer this description from a checklist Jon sent me a few weeks back:

4210-21-856-9084 Extinguisher, fire, dry chem, hand type, 5 lb cap, cartridge discharged, low temp painted BLUE, w/hose and shut off nozzle, potassium bicarbonate powder.

Checklist was for a 5/4 ton, but all the smaller vehicles used the same 5 pound extinguisher.

[Mike Baker]

Originally Posted by chris vickery

Hi Rob, I found an Ansul on Kijiji at $75, good price I think...
Just have to see if I can get it shipped

Is that the one in Fredericton? There is also a red one for sale outside of Comox that I just e-mailed the guy about.

Mike

[maple_leaf_eh]

Originally Posted by chris vickery

I saw that Greg Wright had some on his milsurp website but they are the red Iltis style ones.
Considering that I want to maintain the appearance of a mid to late 70's Jeep, I do require the blue one.
Rob, is the bracket special?

Greg has all kinds of stuff that he doesn't catalog. He has a couple sheds and an old house trailer full of gear. Write him and ask. He can only say no.

[BCA]

I believe that the colour of the extinguisher indicates the type of propellant gas: red extinguishers (good for normal temperature ranges) probably use
carbon dioxide. I believe the blue ones were charged with nitrogen which maintains a better pressure at low temperatures.
....... Brian

[chris vickery]

Brian, pm sent...

[rob love]

I did some quick research on the color and temp ratings, and I don't think the color has anything to do with it. There are two different ratings for the red line extinguisher, which include a low temp version which are good to some ungodly temp like -65, so it is doubtful that you would have one rated below that. All are presently painted red.
From the product spec sheet:
Temperature Ranges: -40° F to 120° F (-40° C to 49° C) and -65° F to 120° F (-54° C to 49° C) for Low Temp models

What I did find was that the old British rating system had french blue as indicating the extinguisher had dry powder in it. That system was changed in 1997, but it could very well be that the DND colored it's extinguishers based on the British system or an earlier Canadian system, and has never changed it's specs. Currently, the Canadian spec does call for the C type extinguishers to have a blue circle on them with the letter C in it.

Next time I see some of the guys I know at the base fire hall, I'll ask them.