C60X Machinery bodies..Manuals of equipment? surviving "complete" examples?

[Alex van de Wetering]

@ Nick
The PU was really fun to do, but it's a bit of a shame that I haven't finished any models since than! I really want to get some Canadian projects done now....with the C60X, LAAT, HUP/HUW/HUA and C8 high on the wish list!
Will send you a PM.

@ Noel
Some interior pics of a C60X on our own forum? hmmm...the search function is a real challenge sometimes....with most of the CMP types under the minimum word length it often requires some clever thinking or a good memory who posted it! Will send you my email-address through PM.

@ Dave
Excellent pictures, but sadly not the body I am looking for. I have attached a picture from forum member Serge, which shows the big box I am looking for.

Alex




http://www.mapleleafup.org/forums/at...5&d=1260861684

[Colin Alford]

Alex,

Here is a photo of the page from "Design Record, Canadian-Developed Military Vehicles World War II, Volume VI Technical Vehicles" dealing with Machinery Lorry type C.

I believe that the page from the Gregg book that identifies the vehicle as a type L should in fact be a type C.

I have photos of the entire page from the book but will just post the one for now to see if enough detail shows up.

If there is enough detail, please let me know and I will post the other photos.
Colin

[Colin Alford]

On second thought... Here are the other photos of the page.

DSC00373.JPG DSC00375.JPG DSC00376.JPG DSC00377.JPG

[Alex van de Wetering]

Colin,

Great stuff and thanks for posting these! This is indeed the kind of info I am looking for, but you can never have enough...or I am just getting spoiled

Indeed it seems that the rear-side picture you posted and the one in Bill Gregg's book are one and the same. This basically confirms that the one in Gregg's book is indeed a Machinery Type C and not an L as described in the book. This also means that the top view drawing, the description that Noel posted and the interior pictures are from one and the same type...which forces me to think about building a Type C! Funny though that most of the restored examples nowadays seem to be of the type without generator doors...with twin side benches and double rear doors.

Is it possible for you to send me some larger scans/bigger pics through email?

3kw, 110 volt DC, Outboard Marine or Lryland generator driven by Briggs & Stratton engine

This sounds like a Chore Horse(?)

Alex

[Grant Bowker]

The chorehorse output was 300W, only 1/10 that given above, as well the later (postwar?) chorehoses were 24V system (and I think the earlier ones were 12V but am not sure). I don't know what Briggs & Stratton engine would have been used for a 3KW output, maybe a nominal 8 horsepower after allowing for losses in generation. I got your PM but have not yet put together an answer.

[servicepub (RIP)]

Alex,

I have these for the Mach "A", as well as for other models.
http://www.sendpix.com/albums/100930...df50764bb9f5a/

[Alex Blair (RIP)]

Originally Posted by Alex van de Wetering

Colin,

Great stuff and thanks for posting these! This is indeed the kind of info I am looking for, but you can never have enough...or I am just getting spoiled

Indeed it seems that the rear-side picture you posted and the one in Bill Gregg's book are one and the same. This basically confirms that the one in Gregg's book is indeed a Machinery Type C and not an L as described in the book. This also means that the top view drawing, the description that Noel posted and the interior pictures are from one and the same type...which forces me to think about building a Type C! Funny though that most of the restored examples nowadays seem to be of the type without generator doors...with twin side benches and double rear doors.

Is it possible for you to send me some larger scans/bigger pics through email?



This sounds like a Chore Horse(?)

Alex

Alex
Why don't you order the correct manual from Grant Bowker..He has all the originals and makes beautiful copies..

Take your pick..

#2A 200+ Pages MACH-E 25-1 Parts and Instruction Manual for Machinery Lorry Equiptment RE 25 KW" Lorry(Used with 975A Diamond "T" 201" WB Chassis).Used in the heavy repair of engineering equipment in the field.

Well illustrated ,including equipment layouts,wiring diagrams,distribution panels,etc. Oct 1943

#2B 400+ Pages MACH-F-1 Parts and Instruction Manual for Machinery Lorry Equiptment Type F Lorry(Used with GM 6X6 C-60X) Well illustrated ,including equipment layouts,wiring diagrams,distribution panels,etc.(Includes Willys MB generator set used with this style body).Used as a field repair shop for vehicles. August 1943

#2C 150 Pages MACH-H Parts and Instruction Manual for Machinery Lorry Equiptment type "H" lorry(Used with 975A Diamond "T" 201" WB Chassis). Used in the field for heavy lathe and screw turning.. Well illustrated ,including equipment layouts,wiring diagrams,distribution panels,etc. July 1943


The #2B 400+ Pages MACH-F-1 ,would be the correct manual for the C-60 X..
Alex

[Alex van de Wetering]

@ Alex
Don't tell me you know all these manuals by heart No, I did send the new Mr. Manual a PM which Grant also mentioned in his post.

@ Clive
Woowee...excellent! If this is the sort of pictures we will find in your upcoming CMP book(series) ....
PM on the way.

@ Grant
Hmm, you are right. I guess I was pretty tired last night.....I mean that separate cabinet in the right rear of the Machinery Type C is much to big for just a Chorse Horse. Ah well....I guess it was just wishfull thinking as measuring up a Chorse Horse would only require a walk to my garage.

Alex

[Alex van de Wetering]

Hi Guys,

Thanks for your replies and info both on the forum and through PM. The new info has triggered me to continue on the model and I am happy I made some progress again over the past few weeks after a long period of silence.

Combining info from different sources has enabled me to answer a lot of the questions I had and get a more detailed view of the details in the Lindsey machinery bodies. But, some questions still remain.....

I am still on the lookout for some good quality pictures/scans of the Type C Machinery body pictures Colin shows in this thread. Anybody able to make some HQ scans from the "Design Record, Canadian-Developed Military Vehicles World War II"???


Something else has also been keeping me busy.....the three C60X Machinery trucks I have inspected here in Holland and the one in Belgium (and the one in Norway as well if I remember correctly) all seems to be of the same body style.....twin rear doors, twin side benches and no other doors or hatches in de sides or rear of the body. However the panels above the side benches seem to be of the non-opening kind in all of them. The question is.....what type are these? They seem closest to a type D, but Gregg's list doesn't mention that these didn't have opening panels above the side benches (like with the Type A and C pictured in this thread), also Clive sent me some pictures of the Type D interior and that does seem to show a locking mechanism for the panels.....so, this means at least the Type D in those pictures has opening panels.(?)

So, maybe there is a difference between early and late vehicles?
All the restored vehicles were modified post war?
The restored trucks had a different role from origin....Stores? Chemical Warfare?


Alex