CFR Request Thread

[Mike Baker]

Scott:

Hilarious - I was about to come on here and ask you if you had a breakdown on which ECC's were which, and like magic here it is already!

I managed to get copies of some of the same printouts that you obtained, and they raised a couple of other questions that I am hoping you or someone else on the thread might know the answer to:

1) How accurate would a Holding Unit History be? The records indicate that my truck (67-07840) was initially held by UIC 0122, CFB Chilliwack. But the Holding Unit History indicates that it was held by 1732 (CFB Edmonton Det Wainwright) from 01-JAN-67 (the default acquisition date for all '67s) until 20-MAY-80. To add more confusion, the Work Order history details only indicate 5 work orders, with the pre-1980 ones being performed by UIC 2208, which was ADM (Engineering and Maintenance). That, I believe, was the predecessor of LETE. Post 1980 the maintenance was performed in Chilliwack. Did LETE or its predecessor have a facility in Wainwright? I seriously doubt the truck went back and forth to Ottawa. My thinking is that the truck started in Wainwright, spent time with "LETE" there and was then sent to Chilliwack in 1980. Does that sound plausible?

2) If the ADM(Engineering and Maintenance) precursor of LETE did have my truck in Wainwright, any idea what they might have been doing with it?

3) Three modifications are listed:

30010000CF003
30100000CF014
30103000CF004

Any idea what these were? I suspect one is the M151 air filter, and another is the windshield washers, but no idea about the third.

Thanks for any info you can provide.

[Scott Bentley]

Originally Posted by Mike Baker

Scott:

Hilarious - I was about to come on here and ask you if you had a breakdown on which ECC's were which, and like magic here it is already!

I managed to get copies of some of the same printouts that you obtained, and they raised a couple of other questions that I am hoping you or someone else on the thread might know the answer to:

1) How accurate would a Holding Unit History be? The records indicate that my truck (67-07840) was initially held by UIC 0122, CFB Chilliwack. But the Holding Unit History indicates that it was held by 1732 (CFB Edmonton Det Wainwright) from 01-JAN-67 (the default acquisition date for all '67s) until 20-MAY-80. To add more confusion, the Work Order history details only indicate 5 work orders, with the pre-1980 ones being performed by UIC 2208, which was ADM (Engineering and Maintenance). That, I believe, was the predecessor of LETE. Post 1980 the maintenance was performed in Chilliwack. Did LETE or its predecessor have a facility in Wainwright? I seriously doubt the truck went back and forth to Ottawa. My thinking is that the truck started in Wainwright, spent time with "LETE" there and was then sent to Chilliwack in 1980. Does that sound plausible?

2) If the ADM(Engineering and Maintenance) precursor of LETE did have my truck in Wainwright, any idea what they might have been doing with it?

3) Three modifications are listed:

30010000CF003
30100000CF014
30103000CF004

Any idea what these were? I suspect one is the M151 air filter, and another is the windshield washers, but no idea about the third.

Thanks for any info you can provide.

The VMO Unit Data seems to be fairly accurate with the Jeeps, but in your case, there is about 7 years worth of info missing. Comparing work orders against the VMO data, looks like it went from Wainwright to Chilliwack in 1980.
Looking at the work orders prior to 1980, in the sub heading it says: Maint Coy ASU Wainwright. The Admin Engr/Maint bit seems to be the generic nominclature info for Base Maint, as nearly all have that heading, mine included. I think your Jeep was also part of the Base Tpt Veh Pool while it was in Wainwright as no lodger Unit was listed in the Maint logs. One repair was also performed in Calgary. The Powerpack was most likely changed in 84, as 16.5hrs of "Corrective" work was performed on it in that entry.

Rob Love may chime in as to what the actual Mods are, as I only know what the M151A2 Mods translate to.

Scotty

[Matthew Reid]

If some one has a chance could they look up the following.

It is for an Armstrong MT500 (well M50 actually) Motorcycle.

Not sure of the year.

The only tag I can find on the bike has the following info.

Engine number 193843
Frame number EC0059


Thanks in advance Matthew

[rob love]

"30010000CF003
30100000CF014
30103000CF004


Any idea what these were? I suspect one is the M151 air filter, and another is the windshield washers, but no idea about the third."

C30-010-000CF003 is a generic modification for SMPs. It could be the seatbelt installation, but I can't say for certain. The seatbelts or the windshield washers are possible. I may have the answers downstairs in one of the many milkcrates of CFTOs I have squirrelled away, but no promises.
C-30-100-000/CF014 is the modification to the lower generator bracket to prevent busting the ears off the alternator. It consisted of some sliding bushings (which would just sieze anyway).
C30-103-000/CF004 should be a mod for the Cdn3. I am afraid I do not have anything on this one in my main book.

There was no mod to go to a M151 air filter. That pattern of filter assy was standard from the factory on both the Cdn2 and Cdn3 series of M38A1s.

[rob love]

Originally Posted by rob love

C30-010-000CF003 is a generic modification for SMPs. It could be the seatbelt installation, but I can't say for certain. The seatbelts or the windshield washers are possible. I may have the answers downstairs in one of the many milkcrates of CFTOs I have squirrelled away, but no promises.
C-30-100-000/CF014 is the modification to the lower generator bracket to prevent busting the ears off the alternator. It consisted of some sliding bushings (which would just sieze anyway).
C30-103-000/CF004 should be a mod for the Cdn3. I am afraid I do not have anything on this one in my main book.

There was no mod to go to a M151 air filter. That pattern of filter assy was standard from the factory on both the Cdn2 and Cdn3 series of M38A1s.

By coincidence, I was going through some piles of paper downstairs, and voila, there was the index of the C30-010-000/CF mods. These were mods that were applicable to more than one vehicle fleet, so the m od would get the 30-010 number rather than a fleet specific application code (ie 30102=M38A1Cdn2, 30200=5/4 ton). Anyway, here are a couple of the modification instructions which we see on some of these searches.

C30-010-000/CF003: Modification of distributor caps and covers for use with autosense computerised diagnostic equipment

C30-010-000/CF009: Installation for std commercial turn signals-truck 1/4 ton Cdn2, cdn2, 2-1/2 ton, 5 ton M39 series

C30-010-000/cf-013: Installation of lap safety belts, 1/4 ton, 2-1/2 ton, 5 ton and M809 series.

There were other mods running up to CF015 listed on the index, but most of them will not concern this thread.

Man, the scraps of paper I have kept, it's a miracle my house has not burned down.

[Scott Bentley]

Originally Posted by rob love

C30-010-000CF003 is a generic modification for SMPs. It could be the seatbelt installation, but I can't say for certain. The seatbelts or the windshield washers are possible. I may have the answers downstairs in one of the many milkcrates of CFTOs I have squirrelled away, but no promises.

Rob, it's actually for the old US style "Decon Bottles" with the note for "CFE Units only", which is not surprising really. Even the "new" Bottles rarely got past the RQ Shop. Find them rolling around in LSVW Tool Bins from time to time, most likely tossed in prior to an ATI or something. I keep hearing guys talking about using them for applying Undercoating or Weed Killer

[brunno1968]

Hi,
I just bought an other iltis and i am looking for his history.

The cfr number is 87951.

I have an M101cdn2 with serial 1001, mfr 36221, stk number 2330-21-904-9885 and ecc 131201 if someone could find some info about it.

Really appreciate your help and read your post.

Thank you, Bruno

[Scott Bentley]

Originally Posted by brunno1968

Hi,
I just bought an other iltis and i am looking for his history.

The cfr number is 87951.

I have an M101cdn2 with serial 1001, mfr 36221, stk number 2330-21-904-9885 and ecc 131201 if someone could find some info about it.

Really appreciate your help and read your post.

Thank you, Bruno

Bruno,

CFR Information
CFR No 87951
CFR Year 1986
Serial No BI02-01-86-87951
Actual ECC 121519
Authorized ECC 121519
NSN 2320-21-899-5702
ERN 30111
Holding Unit 0106
DA Unit 0106
Date Acquired 28-Feb-86
Cost 26363
Alloc Code MB
Comm Suite
Current VMO DLE21928 - 11-Aug-05
HN Date 01-Aug-06
Pending? No
Disposed? Yes
Disposal Date 12-Aug-05

Holding Unit History

As of 18-MAY-11

CFR No Departure Arrival HUIC Unit
87951* 14-May-04 09-Jan-04 5246* 12 RBC
87951* 09-Jan-04 08-Mar-99 0106* CFB/ASU Valcartier
87951* 08-Mar-99 18-Sep-96 0166* LFQA TC
87951* 18-Sep-96 21-Jan-94 0106* CFB/ASU Valcartier
87951* 21-Jan-94 06-Apr-92 3008* CC (HQ ELEMENT) UNTAC
87951* 06-Apr-92 09-Apr-86 1853* 1 R22ER
87951* 09-Apr-86 28-Feb-86 0106* CFB/ASU Valcartier

Modification History

As of 18-MAY-11

Modification History of CFR : 87951

Modification No Modification Complete Date Completed
30108000CF002* HEATER HOSE TEE CONNECTOR REPLACEMENT YES
30108000CF003* CLUTCH BREATHER HOSE RELOCATION YES
30108000CF004* VEHICLE TAILPIPE MODIFICATION YES
30108000CF005* TRANSMISSION BELL HOUSING MODIFICATION YES
30108000CF006* OIL PAN PROTECTOR PLATE MODIFICATION YES
30108000CF007* AXLE DUST BOOT GUARD INSTALLATION YES
30108000CF008* FUEL FILTER AND RESOVIOR REPLACEMENT YES
30108000CF009* ELECTRICAL CAPACITOR KIT INSTALLATION YES
30108000CF010* BATTERY BOX AND CABLE MODIFICATION YES
30108000CF011* DISTRIBUTOR VENTING SYSTEM MODIFICATION YES
30108000CF016* MOD OF HAND BRAKE LEVER WITH PIN KIT YES

Work Order Details
As of 18-MAY-11
CFR Number : 87951
Format Work Order Number SS Date Completed CIN HUIC Usage Qty Parts ($) Rebuild
4 WO-455G-025172 26-May-04 455* 5023* 81934 1 0 NO
4 WO-609G-008025 08-Dec-03 609* 5023* 81934 1 0 NO
4 WO-455G-021424 05-Dec-03 455* 5023* 81934 1 0 NO
4 WO-609G-008013 04-Nov-03 609* 5023* 81934 1 0 NO
4 WO-601G-001224 02-Apr-03 601* 5023* 81823 1 0 NO
4 WO-601G-000527 2 03-Dec-02 601* 5023* 81823 1 1586.47 NO
4 WO-609G-005390 1 13-Aug-02 609* 5023* 81000 1 0 NO
4 WO-609G-005048 1 18-Jul-02 609* 5023* 80989 1 0 NO
4 WO-609G-004955 1 16-Jul-02 609* 5023* 80948 1 819.88 NO
4 WO-601G-000466 2 05-Jun-02 601* 5023* 80729 1 0 NO
4 WO-609G-004625 1 05-Jun-02 609* 5023* 80830 1 0 NO
4 WO-455G-013332 2 15-May-02 455* 5023* 80753 1 0 NO
4 WO-601G-001442 1 23-Jan-02 601* 5023* 80581 1 0 NO
4 WO-609G-003679 1 30-Oct-01 609* 5023* 80320 1 0 NO
4 WO-609G-003425 1 14-Sep-01 609* 5023* 80320 1 0 NO
4 WO-609G-003345 1 23-Aug-01 609* 5023* 80065 1 0 NO
4 WO-609G-002968 1 23-Jul-01 609* 5023* 80065 1 0 NO
4 WO-609G-002973 1 12-Jul-01 609* 5023* 78695 1 0 NO
4 WO-609G-002941 1 11-Jul-01 609* 5023* 78695 1 0 NO
4 WO-609G-002585 1 24-May-01 609* 5023* 78695 1 0 NO
4 WO-455T-000532 2 06-Feb-01 455* 5023* 0 1 0 NO
4 WO-601G-000465 1 14-Dec-00 601* 5023* 77604 1 0 NO
4 WO-601G-000408 1 22-Aug-00 601* 5023* 77245 1 0 NO
4 WO-601G-000216 1 28-Apr-00 601* 5023* 76945 1 29 NO
4 WO-601G-000215 1 22-Feb-00 601* 5023* 76822 1 554 NO
5 L90186 29-Nov-99 455* 5023* 76771 1 0 NO
6 L87951 29-Nov-99 601* 5023* 76794 1 2534 NO
6 L87951 13-Aug-99 609* 5023* 76514 1 790 NO
6 L87951 23-Feb-99 609* 0166* 73756 1 48 NO
6 L87951 19-Nov-98 609* 0166* 73468 1 0 NO
6 L87951 07-Jul-98 609* 0166* 73274 1 822 NO
6 L87951 12-Jan-98 609* 0166* 73233 1 0 NO
6 L87951 01-Dec-97 609* 0166* 73228 1 605 NO
6 L87951 14-Aug-97 609* 0166* 73089 1 836 NO
6 L87951 05-Nov-96 609* 0166* 71540 2 1164 NO
6 LD1239 29-Sep-93 977* 3008* 70729 1 212 NO
6 LC1239 30-Jun-93 977* 3008* 69313 4 496 NO
6 LC1239 19-Feb-93 994* 3008* 64220 1 384 NO
6 LC1014 22-Sep-92 994* 3008* 59465 1 143 NO
6 L87951 17-Feb-92 263* 1853* 54855 2 448 NO
6 L87951 24-Aug-91 263* 1853* 50568 2 261 NO
6 L87951 21-Mar-91 263* 1853* 47964 1 915 NO
6 LH7951 14-Oct-90 263* 1853* 46642 2 2672 NO
6 L87951 03-May-90 263* 1853* 31663 1 0 NO
6 L87951 15-Feb-90 263* 1853* 31584 1 869 NO
6 L30022 07-Dec-88 263* 1853* 23989 1 0 NO
6 L30022 12-Feb-87 263* 1853* 8133 2 30 NO
6 L30022 19-Oct-86 263* 1853* 7368 1 318 NO
6 L30024 22-May-86 263* 1853* 6771 1 177 NO

[Scott Bentley]

Originally Posted by brunno1968

Hi,
I just bought an other iltis and i am looking for his history.

The cfr number is 87951.

I have an M101cdn2 with serial 1001, mfr 36221, stk number 2330-21-904-9885 and ecc 131201 if someone could find some info about it.

Really appreciate your help and read your post.

Thank you, Bruno

Iltis Trailer info:

CFR Information
CFR No 15464
CFR Year 1992
Serial No 1001
Actual ECC 131201
Authorized ECC 131201
NSN 2330-21-904-9885
ERN 30825
Holding Unit 0106
DA Unit 0106
Date Acquired 18-Mar-94
Cost 2200
Alloc Code MB
Comm Suite
Current VMO DLE23925 - 14-Nov-03
HN Date 11-Mar-04
Pending? No
Disposed? Yes
Disposal Date 18-Feb-04

Looks like it belonged to 62 Fd Regt RCA

[Scott Bentley]

Originally Posted by matthewq4b

If some one has a chance could they look up the following.

It is for an Armstrong MT500 (well M50 actually) Motorcycle.

Not sure of the year.

The only tag I can find on the bike has the following info.

Engine number 193843
Frame number EC0059


Thanks in advance Matthew

CFR Information
CFR No 78552
CFR Year 1986
Serial No MTEC0059
Actual ECC 120104
Authorized ECC 120104
NSN
ERN 30905
Holding Unit 0109
DA Unit 0109
Date Acquired 28-Jul-86
Cost 0
Alloc Code MB
Comm Suite
Current VMO DP355942 - 13-Sep-94
HN Date 06-Oct-94
Pending? No
Disposed? Yes
Disposal Date 06-Oct-94


Holding Unit History

As of 14-SEP-10

CFR No Departure Arrival HUIC Unit
78552* 17-May-93 14-Sep-92 0122* CFB CHILLIWACK
78552* 14-Sep-92 17-Jun-87 1776* 1 CER
78552* 17-Jun-87 08-Apr-87 0122* CFB CHILLIWACK
78552* 08-Apr-87 07-Apr-87 1776* 1 CER
78552* 07-Apr-87 28-Jul-86 0122* CFB CHILLIWACK

Work Order Details

As of 14-SEP-10

CFR Number : 78552

Format Work Order Number SS Date Completed CIN HUIC Usage Qty Parts ($) Rebuild
6 L78552 22-Mar-91 223* 1776* 5698 1 0 NO
6 L78552 24-Oct-90 223* 1776* 5698 1 27 NO
6 L78552 12-Feb-90 223* 1776* 4161 1 0 NO
6 L78552 30-Aug-88 223* 1776* 1758 1 25 NO
6 LZ8552 11-May-87 223* 1776* 437 1 0 NO

Looks like you've got a Sapper's Bike. It also showed 5700kms at the last Maint entry in 1991.

[302Trooper]

Scotty,

I was lucky enough to find another M38A1. This time it is a CDN 2. The only sticker on the dash besides the Data plate is a 6. The vehicle manufactuer number is 7105 97670 C
Any chance you can pull up some info on this jeep with this limited info. It was owned by a former service member. I picked it up off a guy who was going to Bubba it up. It is complete with manuals, canvas and all the lights. Of course it is hurting when it comes to rust.

Thanks
Dave
302Trooper

[rob love]

Originally Posted by 302Trooper

Scotty,

I was lucky enough to find another M38A1. This time it is a CDN 2. The only sticker on the dash besides the Data plate is a 6. The vehicle manufactuer number is 7105 97670 C
Any chance you can pull up some info on this jeep with this limited info. It was owned by a former service member. I picked it up off a guy who was going to Bubba it up. It is complete with manuals, canvas and all the lights. Of course it is hurting when it comes to rust.

Thanks
Dave
302Trooper

CFR is 68-08403

[302Trooper]

Any background info in the system on this M38A1 CDN 2 CFR 68-08403?


Thanks again
Dave
302Trooper