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Old 13-08-10, 14:48
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A DND plate will not mean much to most civilian police, but it certainly does to the MPs. Apparently there was a case many years ago where someone bought a staff car that had the plates still on it and continued to drive it for a time with the plates. DND tightened up security wrt the plates after that. If a plate was lost or stolen, the vehicle was to be assigned a new CFR. And I have seen the MPs travel many miles to recover a plate that was inadvertently left on a vehicle and found it's way to the mil scrapyard.

The DND plate is a sign of insurance (underwriter's insurance if I recall) and technically using one is displaying a false insurance.
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Old 13-08-10, 18:15
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The DND plate is a sign of insurance (underwriter's insurance if I recall) and technically using one is displaying a false insurance.
I thought that DND, like most Government agencies, self-insured.
I agree with Eric, and others, that the use of a DND plate is inappropriate in all circumstances other than a static display (I'm not even sure that it should be on a parade vehicle as that could give the impression that it is a DND vehicle - made all that much more ambiguous when the driver is in a uniform of sorts.)
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Old 13-08-10, 19:46
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Hello Folks

Thanks Rob, Alex and Clive

For those who wish to make their own informed decision pertaining to traffic law in Ontario I have attached the link to the Highway Traffic Act e-law web page.

http://www.e-laws.gov.on.ca/html/sta...es_90h08_e.htm

As I indicated earlier there are other options for Ontario licence plates than the regular issued plates, such as Year of Manufacture, Veteran and Personal plates, including a support our troop yellow ribbon. Information on these can be obtained from the Ministry of Ontario web page at.
http://www.mto.gov.on.ca/english/dan...le/index.shtml

I included the use of DND plates in a parade as this involves a closed roadway, which permits unlicenced or other vehicles to drive on the road, which normally are not permitted. No Provincial offence would take place.

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Old 13-08-10, 20:09
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I included the use of DND plates in a parade as this involves a closed roadway, which permits unlicenced or other vehicles to drive on the road, which normally are not permitted. No Provincial offence would take place.
But possibly a Federal offence under the National Defence Act?
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Old 14-08-10, 13:02
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I work in film and there is a place in Toronto called U B Signs they make all the plates for cars we use in Movies..they can do any plate from any State or Country from any period.

They can make cheaper "flat" plates or better 3 dimentional plates.
I am sure they could make DND plates if you have a good photo of one to show them.

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Old 31-08-10, 02:39
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The technically correct answer is No. In Ontario, you are permitted to display the registration plates for the vehicle as provided by the issuing authority- Province, State, or Federal Authority. Examples being DND, Diplomatic Plates etc. However like everything else in the world, common sense and discretion can be a factor.

You would think that 'Confusing' the identity of the vehicle on a restored operational Military Vehicle would be a stretch if your regular plates are displayed correctly. You could argue validity, or Collector, historic status forever but the charge itself is pretty subjective and simple to prove in Court.

Operating your MV on an open Highway with a DND plate on its own is asking for trouble and could end up costing you an expensive Tow and Impound bill and fines.

In 26 years of law enforcement I have never seen a reason to remove the plate from a civilian owned MV that was mechanically sound and driven in a proper manner. And I have never encountered one that wasn't.

I will admit I have pulled over a few to admire the workmanship and shake the hand of the driver/owner who keeps the green alive!

The same issue arises with very old nostalgic cars which drive with original licence plates and current issue at the same time. Or European/Overseas country plates on an Ontario registered vehicle by a permanent resident.

Any enforcement officer who needs stats that bad.....................well, thats another story.
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Old 31-08-10, 15:07
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...I will admit I have pulled over a few to admire the workmanship and shake the hand of the driver/owner who keeps the green alive!
I'll bet that pulling them over to admire the "green" really made their day...
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Old 13-08-10, 20:01
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...This will go on forever. Will you talk with Syd and have this posted for all to see on the OMVA website and quote the authority for this to end the curiosity? Perhaps title it "Display of DND plate on collector vehicles",
or whatever. I like the US copies because they are close but not original.
I know MP's that look for plates that "got away".
There was a mass sale of Jeeps at downsview about 1983 or so and in the back of a 3 ton up for sale were about 100 plate that had been thrown there by whoever took them off. Probably 40 disappeared before the meatheads showed up. I still have 2. They also show up in scrapyards.

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