transporting carriers

[cantankrs]

Originally Posted by Rob Beale

weighs about 1 tonne, so figure less for the cut down hull, and any rust holes.

I think a little bit heavier than 1 ton for an uncut hull. Last weekend we let down one side of an LP2 with a half ton chainblock and it was hard work on the chainblock. We wanted to readjust so tried to relift the right side and gave up very quickly.

Regards

Alex

P.S. Anyone hired a tandem trailer with brakes that actually work??! Don't think I've found one yet over here. I hired one late last year in Perth and it had discs on the front and they were worn tapered due to pads worn away. I had to back all the adjusters off to avoid further damage and uneccesary friction. The old saying I guess "Youse gets whats youse pays for" and they don't charge enough.

[Ryan]

Thanks guys, makes for sobering reading.
I'll be heading to Corowa this year in my Hilux 4x4 (with a commodore V6) and was thinking of hiring a trailer to take up there, maybe even Kennards. And then from there into NSW to get the carrier. I once hired a tandem from them to transport my F15 Blitz. But that was only for a dozen kms or more.
This time it will be from Inverleigh, near Geelong, Vic, to Corowa and then into Nsw for another 350kms. And then all the way back again. About a 1500km round trip I think.
Was thinking of a light truck but that may break my budget.

Here is a pic of what the carrier looks like. What do you think the weight would be?

I guess I'm finally border raiding.

[ron]

Hello Ryan,
Not intending to be rude, but take the bits and leave the rest you can do better than that,
sorry mate but I mean it well.
Regards Ron

[Alex Blair (RIP)]

Originally Posted by rynoki

Thanks guys, makes for sobering reading.
I'll be heading to Corowa this year in my Hilux 4x4 (with a commodore V6) and was thinking of hiring a trailer to take up there, maybe even Kennards. And then from there into NSW to get the carrier. I once hired a tandem from them to transport my F15 Blitz. But that was only for a dozen kms or more.
This time it will be from Inverleigh, near Geelong, Vic, to Corowa and then into Nsw for another 350kms. And then all the way back again. About a 1500km round trip I think.
Was thinking of a light truck but that may break my budget.

Here is a pic of what the carrier looks like. What do you think the weight would be?

I guess I'm finally border raiding.

Ryan ..There are different methods of transporting tracked vehicles..
They are a little different from transporting rubber tired vehicles..
Part of the safety of transporting these vehicles depends on the friction of the wheels /tracks and the deck on which they are being transported..and is very often overlooked as an issue until your tracked vehicle is laying upside down in a ditch,or in Pinky Parkers case ..laying on its side on the main street..
The friction between a steel deck and steel tracks is virtually nil..the vehicle will act very tamely while sitting at rest on the deck and will remain that way until the evils of centrifugal force and inertia come into play as you are towing it merrily down the street and come to the first corner ,with which you travel around at any speed..
You will soon realize that even chained down,your pet will go traveling on its own..much to your chagrin..
So be safe and use a wooden deck or a rubber matted deck..to transport you vehicle//Maybe Bruce will post those pictures ..or maybe Jif can find them in the archive..They have been posted here before and are a good example of not being aware of this hazard..

[cantankrs]

Originally Posted by cantankrs

I think a little bit heavier than 1 ton for an uncut hull. Last weekend we let down one side of an LP2 with a half ton chainblock and it was hard work on the chainblock. We wanted to readjust so tried to relift the right side and gave up very quickly.

Out of respect to Rob (and thanks Doug) - I forgot the warp axle was still fitted along with the two rear suspension units minus wheels. Certainly the warp axle would add weight.

Also Ryan the diff is heavy.

It was a Kennards I hired to bring our furniture home but as I said they didn't charge much, and I was desperate, so it just pays to check and test everything before you drive away. I'd use Kennards equipment again at the drop of a hat. But they did say if the trailer broke down out of metro area we'd be paying for its recovery, and I think repair.

Regards

Alex

[cantankrs]

Hi Ryan,

Am I right in that the other side axle, brakes, etc are missing from the diff? My Dad encountered big trouble getting the diff clamp caps off and the axle housing levered away (on his LP2). Also he made a mistake in overhauling the brakes while it was still on the donor carrier thinking it would save him undue handling and have an idea that the diff might be OK before he went to the trouble of removing it. He could no longer screw the brake adjusters right in thru their respective hole in the hull extension plates so that levering the diff back and down would clear the adjuster holes. Not wanting to split the diff which a number of recoverers seem to have done, he pulled the axles and removed the hubs and backing plates again.

Anyone else had difficulties getting LP2 diffs off?
Do the LP1's have welded on hull extension plates that just unbolt crossways?

Also the rear supension units needed considerable effort to get detached even after bolts were removed.

Regards

Alex

[Ryan]

Your experiences and opinions have been very helpful so far everyone. Thanks for responding.
Going to give Corowa a miss this year to make the trip shorter and bring the budget in too. It's bill season in my house at the moment.

Ron, I'm not offended by your comments. I reckon it looks like a dog too. But the owner said I could have it for a slab of beer!
Thanks Alex Blair for the heads up on rubber and or wooden flooring. Wouldn't want a nasty surprise like that!
And yes Alex (cantankrs) the other side of the diff are missing. When I get home I'll post up the other two pics I have.
Stripping some of it Martyn sounds like a good idea.

[Ryan]

Yep, there isn't much left but I said to myself, "they don't build them anymore and something may come in handy".

[cantankrs]

Originally Posted by rynoki

Yep, there isn't much left but I said to myself, "they don't build them anymore and something may come in handy".

Hey Ryan, Get whatever you can off it. One little bit amongst many could save you some trouble later. Real pity about the weight/distance. Hate to say it but - gasaxe in winter with a helper?

Regards

Alex

[Tony Smith]

Originally Posted by cantankrs

Anyone else had difficulties getting LP2 diffs off?
Do the LP1's have welded on hull extension plates that just unbolt crossways?

Regards

Alex

The LP1 Diff bolts to extensions of the hull sides:

[RichardT10829]

forgot about the sprung load on the wheels, wonder if i could load them up towards the hull. and yes bolts would be used to hold the carrier to the system obviously it would mean drilling the carrier which is never good...

mind guys this is merely a 30 second concept i have conjured up i will work with martyn to see if we can make something safe and viable hahahahaha.


cheers

Richie