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Old 14-09-09, 05:40
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There was an installation instruction for the tow launcher kit and the ammunition supp kit. This would lead me to believe that the Mutts were modded for TOW. As I recall, the TOW mutts were retained a bit longer in service waiting for the Iltis variant to be made up. I also believe they were primarily an Airborne asset. Around this neck of the woods, TOW was initially in the cargo hatch of the M113, and in 88 we went to the TOW under armor (TUA).

I have the data summary for the TOW kit and AMMO kit, but they do not give the total numbers, but rather just the total of 935 for all the MUTTs purchased.
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Old 14-09-09, 13:44
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Looking in the EDR Viewer, there were a grand total of 10 TOW Missile Iltis and 10 TOW Missile M151A2. They went surplus in late 88 to early 89.

Apparently there was a one and only Cable Layer M151A2 as well in Valcartier at some point also.

Bit of irony here though, the Serial Number and CFR for CWM's TOW MUTT and the one in the picture from RV doesn't show in the Database. Hmm.....

I'll keep digging when I get more time.

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Old 14-09-09, 23:32
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Apparently there was a one and only Cable Layer M151A2 as well in Valcartier at some point also.
My CD only shows one also.

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the Serial Number and CFR for CWM's TOW MUTT and the one in the picture from RV doesn't show in the Database. Scotty
My CD doesn't show this one either.
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Old 14-09-09, 13:45
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Looking at the ECC 121411 for M-151A2 TOW Launcher's, it shows a total of 9 listed. I would guess there were more that may have "disappeared" when old CFR's became newer equipment. Ed's RV'85 pic of 1 PPCLI CFR#09207 is at the top of the listings. Cheers,

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Old 14-09-09, 20:43
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Did Canada use the M151A2 TOW Ammo Carrier version? If we did use them, I had never seen one in use and consequently do not have a photo of one.

Thank you for the information you have found, I keep thinking we Canada used about 12 of the M151A2 with TOW, but I cannot confirm it.
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Old 14-09-09, 23:07
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Did Canada use the M151A2 TOW Ammo Carrier version? If we did use them, I had never seen one in use and consequently do not have a photo of one.

Thank you for the information you have found, I keep thinking we Canada used about 12 of the M151A2 with TOW, but I cannot confirm it.
Yes, a Missile Carrier Version was also listed with similar quantities. No pics i'm aware of.

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Old 14-09-09, 23:29
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Here are the TOW M151's that were on DND's database CD they sent me. What is the "AKEE"? I assume that the "Carrier" is the ammo carrier.

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Old 15-09-09, 00:56
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What is the "AKEE"?
Usually the term used is IKEE, which stands for "Installation kit, electrical equipment". My bet would be the AKEE is "adapter kit, electrical equipment".


I am glad I happened on these old CFR number collections a year back. It sure brings us to a new level of knowledge on things as obscure as TOW missile Mutts.
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Old 15-09-09, 01:42
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I took a CFR and was promoted on Friday....

In addition to locking myself out of my car today, the numbers and info I posted up earlier was right out to lunch

I guess all that stuff they say is true.

Anyway, yes, as pointed out, 9 TOW Missile Launchers and 2 Missile Carriers. I suspect the CWM TOW MUTT may have been "written over". There were only 10 Iltis TOW Missile Launchers that I could find, so based on a 1 for 1, that seems to explain the TOW MUTT from the CWM we can't find.

Rob, yes for sure. All makes for interesting reading, especially the Cable Layer. I'd love to know what happened to it.

Ed, either way, you've got a rare beast salvaged there.

Anyone notice the difference of the Grill from the rest of the M151A2s? Mine has the "Furnace Filter", but those look like the entire Grill was modified/reinforced and the Slats removed. Interesting.
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