Dutch CMPs

[Hanno Spoelstra]

New pics of F60L with what looks like an ex-GMC CCKW-352/353 body:

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by Alex van de Wetering

Early cab 11 C15 for sale:



source: http://www.gaf.zeelandnet.nl/generaaltjes/index.php

Telnr.: 0032 495 54 04 01
Aangeboden: Chevrolet canada C15 4x2

Bouwjaar 1939. Motor gereviseerd met nieuwe Cylinder head, kleppen, klepveren, dichtingen,... .
Mooi zeldzaam voertuig in goede staat.

Alex,

Do I understand correctly this C15 was sold to a collector in Holland?

Thanks,

[Alex van de Wetering]

Hanno,

I just had a look and indeed it's one and the same truck (pictures attached); the location and size of the bridge plate, the non-original (?) bumper and latch on the engine lid gives it away. This truck has found a new home in Holland....actually not too far from you and me.
It has had a repaint and has been renumbered. I had a look at the truck recently and it is in very nice condition.

Alex

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by Alex van de Wetering

I just had a look and indeed it's one and the same truck (pictures attached); the location and size of the bridge plate, the non-original (?) bumper and latch on the engine lid gives it away. This truck has found a new home in Holland....actually not too far from you and me.
It has had a repaint and has been renumbered. I had a look at the truck recently and it is in very nice condition.

Here are a couple more pictures of this C15, taken at an event at Kornwerderzand recently by my mate John "Rippo".

[Maurice Donckers]

By the way did the canadian army in ETO ever used 4x2 trucks ? The CZ42 number is pure fantasy .
By what I figured out with Bart Vanderveen all the 4x2 contracts were for the British army , numbers started all with Z444..
Does anybody have wartime oictures of 4x2`s in Canadian service?

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by Maurice Donckers

By the way did the canadian army in ETO ever used 4x2 trucks ? The CZ42 number is pure fantasy .
By what I figured out with Bart Vanderveen all the 4x2 contracts were for the British army , numbers started all with Z444..
Does anybody have wartime oictures of 4x2`s in Canadian service?

Maurice, I have addressed this topic in Did Canadian army in ETO use 4x2 CMPs?.

HTH,
Hanno

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by Hanno Spoelstra

See Dutch CMPs for a selection of CMPs preserved in the Netherlands.

Update!

New (to me) C8A HUP:


Recently restored C15A and Otter (see album for before pictures):


Couple of post-war 15-cwt conversions:


British vehicles are becoming more popular in Holland: brace of Tillies. . .


. . . and a Fordson WOT2 recently imported from the UK.

(One of our forum members recently brought one home from Germany and restored it in record time.)

A unique Dutch C15TA was sadly exported - but we can't keep them all:


Enjoy!
Hanno

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Another C15 with Beford engine, recently imported from England an spotted on http://www.kuiperij.mijnalbums.nl/

Originally Posted by Hanno Spoelstra

Another MilWeb ad:

[Hanno Spoelstra]

An ex-RNLAF F60L has turned up in Belgium, identified by the red-white-blue-orange-dot roundel on the left-hand front cowl.

The last picture shows an early post-war picture of "Luchtstrijdkrachten (LSK)" vehicles. Next to the roundel on the left side, the F15A has "LSK 324" on the right side of the cowl.

Has anyone found these types of markings on their CMP?

Thanks,
Hanno

[gjamo]

n unusual postion for the brush guard to be mounted on the inner holes under the tow ring.

[Dirk Leegwater (RIP)]

Originally Posted by gjamo

n unusual postion for the brush guard to be mounted on the inner holes under the tow ring.

It's not an unusual position of the brush guard but a late one. Here are some details:

Bracket-towing clevis
Part no. C39Q-7869
Clevis - towing
Part no. C111Q-7870

Dirk

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by Dirk Leegwater

It's not an unusual position of the brush guard but a late one.

Dirk,

Could that F60L be one of a batch of F60L's which were assembled by NV Nederlandsche Ford Automobiel Fabriek in Amsterdam early after WW2? Reportedly these were late production crated vehicles.

Hanno

[Alex van de Wetering]

Interesting find! I guess the truck spent a fair amount of it's life in Belgium after demob from the Dutch Air force. I seems to show the typical Belgian headlight relocation...closed up normal position of the headlights and the holes in the bumper for replacement headlights (?)

Alex

[austin tilly]

On April 10th there was a remembrance-rally at Wilp for Operation Cannonshot.
Special feature were CMP and British vehicles. At one moment a line-up was formed with the vehicles. Note: not all CMP's were at this line-up.

Enjoy this line-up!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-ijIT-t4yg

Cheers
Arjan

[Hendrik van Oorspronk]

Some more Photo's from the line up of CMP's and Britisch vehicles.


http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/j...afbeelding.jpg


http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/j...fbeelding2.jpg

Greetz

Hendrik

[Alex van de Wetering]

Excellent work guys! Good to see this number of Commonwealth vehicles lined up.

Alex

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by Hanno Spoelstra

Some more pictures of CMP´s in Netherlands Army use:

Here's another, courtesy of Zemsi - thanks Chris!

http://ansichtskarten.delcampe.de/it...c3145cb43ce905

[Hanno Spoelstra]

As noted by Alex, this C60S Cab 12 recently popped up for sale. I had not seen it before in Holland, so I post it up here. You never know what's hiding in the barn! Note the CMP 15-cwt hiding in the background of pic 2.

The C60S had "CMD 60476" painted on the hood.

H.

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by Hanno Spoelstra

An ex-RNLAF F60L has turned up in Belgium, identified by the red-white-blue-orange-dot roundel on the left-hand front cowl.

The last picture shows an early post-war picture of "Luchtstrijdkrachten (LSK)" vehicles. Next to the roundel on the left side, the F15A has "LSK 324" on the right side of the cowl.

This ex-RNLAF CMP turns out to be an F15A - see more pictures in CMPs for sale in Belgium.

As the inside of the cab is painted red, I thought this F15A could have served as a fire fighting vehicle, either while in RNLAF service or after. However, on this site I found a ca. 1948 picture of an "Ford F15L Manschappen-slangenwagen" (personnell and hose truck) at Air Force Base Leeuwarden. It seems the interesting array of vehicles are any shade of green, but red!

H.

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by Hanno Spoelstra

Some more pictures of CMP´s in Netherlands Army use:

Nice pic of F60L in Dutch Army service, most likely in Indonesia shortly after WW2.

Body looks like an Indian Pattern wooden one?

And who said CMPs never rode on 12:00-20 bar grips?!?!

H.

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Somewhere near Dalfsen, the Netherlands. Trucks no longer loved or wanted, waiting for the rust to take its toll. . . . .

Sad!

[Niels V]

what a pitty, the Bedford looks like a xdanish

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by Hanno Spoelstra

This C15A has remains of an air recognition roundel on the roof and a "56" on a red square. Who knows what that stands for?

I think this is the same truck, now restored:

Originally Posted by Hanno Spoelstra

Fully restored C15A on MilWeb:
http://www.milweb.net/webverts/60026/

- All numbers and text, roundel are original and belong to this very vehicle. They were on the vehicle when restoration started

[Bill Murray]

I have recently run across a number of Dutch vehicle photo sites that amongst other things have photos of ex CMP and other US and Canadian vehicles in use post 1945.

As I have time, I will post some of them in this thread.

Edit: So sorry, Hanno, I was too lazy to do a search. The Registration/License Plate sites are a hoot and there are several more with upwards of 20,000 images. Driving me crazy with all the prewar US car/truck photos, a great love of mine.



Cheers
Bill

[Alex van de Wetering]

I have recently run across a number of Dutch vehicle photo sites that amongst other things have photos of ex CMP and other US and Canadian vehicles in use post 1945.

Awesome Bill! That first CMP shows "Hillegom" on top of the cab. Hanno's hometown! The picture was taken right next to Haarlem trainstation, around the corner where I used to live! "Spoorzicht" is now a Chinese restaurant.

Look at the wheels on the F60....duals at the rear and reversed wheels up front. I have seen this on another Haarlem CMP pic before; maybe the same truck.

Alex

[Alex van de Wetering]

Originally Posted by Hanno Spoelstra

New pics of F60L with what looks like an ex-GMC CCKW-352/353 body:

At first I also thought this to be a retrofitted US body, but some details like the round holes in the lid pointed towards British or Canadian lighting. Obviously that could also have been done post-war. A buddy recently told me that the owner convinced him it was originally a Canadian Stores body. So after another look at the truck and the Servicepub CD-rom I have to agree....it's a Canadian Stores body with some slight modifications!

Alex

[Bill Murray]

Hi Alex:

Glad you enjoyed the pics.

Given the size of these archives, I realize I won't live long enough to go through all of them and pick and choose what I think might be interesting.

So, go here for the info on the license plate series.

https://www.google.com/#hl=en&sugexp...pw.r_qf.&cad=b

And here for over 20K images and links to other similar sites.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/4222007...oto_6062058715

Note that each photo may include links to similar photos. A Benz station wagon may also be featured in a Flickr Photostream
dealing with "European station wagons" and so on.

Probably well over 100K images at least even if there is a lot of duplication.

Hope you have lots of time.

Cheers
Bill

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by Alex van de Wetering

Awesome Bill! That first CMP shows "Hillegom" on top of the cab. Hanno's hometown! The picture was taken right next to Haarlem trainstation, around the corner where I used to live! "Spoorzicht" is now a Chinese restaurant.

Bill, Alex,

What ho! I hadn't spotted that detail yet! I know the spot it was pictured also as my loved one used to live near there.

Re. those wheels, it looks like the LH front is a reversed rim while the RH rim is standard. Those were the days before mandatory yearly technical checks!

Thanks,
Hanno

[Bill Murray]

Totally off topic, but I thought you Hollanders might enjoy this pic I clipped off of one of the sites I mentioned. Sorry for the double post, the pic didn't attach the first time.

[wim sikkelbein]

also off topic, but take a look a this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYIAxkkBy1g