armoured CMP or bedford?

nuyt · #1 08-02-06, 22:34

what's this:
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtop...=846350#846350

Bill Murray · #2 08-02-06, 22:56

Nuyt:
As far as I am concerned it is a CMP as I already posted on AHF.
Bill

Keith Webb · #3 08-02-06, 23:00

Cab 11/12 Ford F15.

Hanno Spoelstra · #4 09-02-06, 01:00

Quote:

Originally posted by Keith Webb
Cab 11/12 Ford F15.

Agree - but who fitted that armoured front and for what purpose?!?

Must have been the Germans, and I can't see why they would elaborately convert only one...

Bill Murray · #5 09-02-06, 02:23

Well all:

This seems to be to me a very unusual vehicle.
I thinkwe will all agree it is a CMP 15CWT.

The venue/area, seems to me to be North Africa but that is only a guess.

The registration plate on all of the photos I have seen in this series jof photos seems to me to be WM which would be the German Navy.

The background of the photos does not, to me, indicate a Port location so I am a bit confused.

Over to a better expert in this area.
Bill

Bob Carriere · #6 09-02-06, 05:05

The Germans must have been tired of servicing the engine with the original small engine cover..... so they modified it and used armour plate while at it...... not a bad deal........ they must have loved our CMPs....

Bob C.

Keith Webb · #7 09-02-06, 05:25

The ideal vehicle to start with.

See the similarity?

Max Hedges · #8 09-02-06, 06:36

I'm sure the one with the armoured front is a cab 11, you can tell by the fuel tank.
Max

Roger Lucy · #9 09-02-06, 14:18

The reversable winter parka would probably preclude Africa, and it's presence would indicate sometime after 1942. The gun is 20mm FlAK 38, and, as noted, the license plate is Kriegsmarine. Armouring the front end of FlAK trucks was not uncommon. How about Italy early 1944 , maybe the Anzio area?
Roger

nuyt · #10 09-02-06, 18:07

check ebay for more pics of the: Orig. Foto Fahrzeug SdKfz Spezial Flak

Location of the derelict building in the background is Sebastopol, Crimea, most pics are 1944

Gunner · #11 09-02-06, 20:41

Hi Roger:

Don't discount parkas in the desert... on posting to the Sahara in '93 ,I was directed to take not only my parka but also my snowshoes!

The justification was that we could be hauled out and shipped directly to some other part of the world without a chance to pickup our winter kit... besides it drops to 0 degrees Celcius, some nights in the desert!

Needless to say the whole Canadian contingent seems to have had a mass amnesia and we all used the space in our luggage for more desert related items such as scuba gear!

Cheers! Mike

Hanno Spoelstra · #12 09-02-06, 20:46

Quote:

Originally posted by ericnuyt
check ebay for more pics of the: Orig. Foto Fahrzeug SdKfz Spezial Flak

Nuyt, could you please list the item number as I can't find it using the caption.

Thanks,
Hanno

nuyt · #13 09-02-06, 22:10

nuyt · #14 09-02-06, 22:33

cant get them right, they are on this page and the following:
http://stores.ebay.de/Auction-Factor...Z2QQpZ11QQtZkm

nuyt · #15 09-02-06, 22:34

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the seller is auction factory

nuyt · #16 09-02-06, 22:39

nuyt · #17 09-02-06, 22:41

http://cgi.ebay.de/Orig-Foto-Fahrzeu...QQcmdZViewItem

nuyt · #18 09-02-06, 22:41

cant paste and copy those links

#19 09-02-06, 23:05

Quote:

Originally posted by Hanno Spoelstra
Agree - but who fitted that armoured front and for what purpose?!?
Must have been the Germans, and I can't see why they would elaborately convert only one...

Ah, the one we can see here in the photo McSpool.

They had loads of them from Greece ex the western desert.

R.