MLU FORUM  

Go Back   MLU FORUM > 'B' ECHELON > The Sergeants' Mess

Notices

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 16-12-05, 15:33
Bruce MacMillan Bruce MacMillan is offline
a Canuck/Brit in Blighty
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Hell Fire Corner, Kent UK
Posts: 697
Default veteran passes

Just saw this in local web news that one of Canada's last surviving Great War veterans passed away on Wednesday. He volunteered at age 15.

William Procter lived at a care facility in Enderby, B.C. He was 106 years young. He went skydiving for his 100th birthday and was still driving his car at 102. He never missed a Remembrance Day ceremony from 1919 until this year.

I believe there are only three survivors left now in Canada.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 16-12-05, 16:18
Vets Dottir
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: veteran passes

Quote:
Originally posted by Bruce MacMillan
Just saw this in local web news that one of Canada's last surviving Great War veterans passed away on Wednesday. He volunteered at age 15.

William Procter lived at a care facility in Enderby, B.C. He was 106 years young. He went skydiving for his 100th birthday and was still driving his car at 102. He never missed a Remembrance Day ceremony from 1919 until this year.

I believe there are only three survivors left now in Canada.
Wow ... what a strong and thriving spirit he was!!! And what a loss ... I'll bet many people are really sad to lose him



Three survivors left Ah ...

Karmen
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 16-12-05, 17:05
Dean Owen Dean Owen is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Whitby Ont, Canada
Posts: 53
Default

I think the last WW1 Veteran to die should recieve a State Funeral...it will be the end of an era.

Dean
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 17-12-05, 23:56
Jon Skagfeld's Avatar
Jon Skagfeld Jon Skagfeld is offline
M38A1 CDN3
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Owen Sound ON
Posts: 2,190
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by Dean Owen
I think the last WW1 Veteran to die should recieve a State Funeral...it will be the end of an era.

Dean
Yes, Dean, agree.

Something along the lines of Smokey Smith's ceremony.
__________________
PRONTO SENDS
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 18-12-05, 00:14
Dean Owen Dean Owen is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Whitby Ont, Canada
Posts: 53
Default

If we few don't care who will????...if we don't speak out who will know??????


Thank you
Dean
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 18-12-05, 13:13
Barry Churcher's Avatar
Barry Churcher Barry Churcher is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Castleton Ont.
Posts: 998
Default

If we get a new government we should all start writing our MP's about this great idea. If the current situation remains, it will be a waste of time. Thanks for thinking of something like that Dean.
Cheers,
Barry
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 19-12-05, 18:43
Frank Misztal's Avatar
Frank Misztal Frank Misztal is offline
Old Sigs Type
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Kingston, ON, Canada
Posts: 139
Default

A memorial service in Vernon, BC will be held today to remember British Columbia's last surviving First World War veteran.

Lest we forget ...
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 30-12-05, 16:08
Alex Blair (RIP) Alex Blair (RIP) is offline
"Mr. Manual", sadly no longer with us
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Ottawa ,Canada
Posts: 2,916
Default Still fighting.....

This came out today and according to this the Supreme Court ,running dog lackies,APPOINTED by the lickspital liberal thieves that are running our country,Parliament can do what it wants ...the hell with rights......

But the fight is not over...
Our veterans deserve better than what they now have....
Make sure they get better this time around and throw these thieving, lying liberals out this time....
These polititions make me want to puke....and I haven't even been drinkin' yet today....

Disabled Veterans Class Action Lawsuit
WINDSOR, ON, Dec. 30 /CNW/ - In the six years since the lawsuit was
commenced, there have been several key developments including a ruling by the
Supreme Court of Canada in July 2003 upholding the supremacy of Parliament and
its power to unilaterally limit its indebtedness to the disabled veterans.
*******************************
The Ontario Superior Court of Justice ruled in December 2003 that, despite the
Supreme Court's ruling, the case had not been brought to an end and could
continue with the next vital step - determining the extent of the government's legal liability.
*******************************

Also in that ruling, the case management judge Justice John H.
Brockenshire ruled that the government's liability - because of its failure to
properly act as a trustee of the veterans' funds over an 85 year period -
appeared likely to exceed, "and very substantially exceed" $1 billion.
In September 2004, the lawyers for the veterans and the government met in
court to argue the method of calculating the veterans' damages. In his
December 2004 ruling, Justice Brockenshire decided that the damages hearing
should proceed on the basis of the veterans' preferred approach - as opposed
to the government's - applying the full benefit of hindsight to all
calculations.
The basis for the veterans' lawyers position as regards the calculation
of damages included studies prepared by former federal government economist
Michael Charette, now a professor at the University of Windsor. The studies
undertook a historical review of various rates of return as applied to a
variety of investment instruments. They did so in the context of standard
trustee practice over the last 85 years, the period covered by the lawsuit.



For further information: David Greenaway, Lawyer, Raphael Partners,
(519) 966-1300 Ext. 422; Raphael Partners Public Relations, (519) 966-1300
Ext. 560
__________________
Alex Blair
:remember :support :drunk:
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 30-12-05, 16:20
Alex Blair (RIP) Alex Blair (RIP) is offline
"Mr. Manual", sadly no longer with us
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Ottawa ,Canada
Posts: 2,916
Default Still Fighting....part ll..

This came out also...

I'd willingly give it to the Vets than to a bunch of Liberal cronies that do nothing but suck the lifeblood out of our country....I'll bet this willl throw a scut in to Goodales budget...Not as much money to give to their buddies...

I like the term "Forthwith".....
***************************
***************************
Ontario Superior Court Justice Awards Disabled Veterans $4.6 B
Federal Government Ordered To Deposit Funds "Forthwith" in Specially
Designated Trust Account
**************************
**************************

WINDSOR, ON, Dec. 30 /CNW/ - Ontario Superior Court Justice John H.
Brockenshire has rendered a decision awarding thousands of disabled veterans,
engaged in a class action lawsuit against the federal government, $4.6 B in
damages.
The decision quantifies the damages owing by the federal government to
thousands of disabled veterans who, since their class action lawsuit was
certified in 1999, have been seeking redress from the federal government for
years of failure to properly administer their funds. These were veterans who
were injured in the service of their country and were deemed, by the
government, incapable of managing their money as a result of their disability.
Veterans in the Class include those from the First World War onwards.
Justice Brockenshire's decision deals with the quantification of the
aggregate damages on the basis of earnings, over 85 years, on the principle
amount held by the federal government for the Class members - if the monies
had been properly invested.
The Auditor General of Canada noted in 1986 that the government had
failed in its duty to manage these funds, and in subsequent court appearances
the government acknowledged its role as a trustee.

Key findings in the decision include:

- "If the Government had addressed this problem in 1985 when the
Auditor General's report made it plain and obvious that the earlier
suspicions of the higher echelons of the bureaucracy were correct and
that the Government was in breach of its obligations, the number
(the Government's liability) would have been in the neighborhood of
$66 Million."
- "At the same time while the veterans were out their money the
Government had at least the opportunity to have invested it. Even if
they invested it in a conservative portfolio...they would
have...earned over $2 B."
- "The general political comments about not wanting to see pension
money going to distant relatives and strangers was put forward as a
policy reason for imposing a lapsing provision...I conclude that
these same considerations even if proven to have been government
policy would not effect the obligation that the Government took as a
trustee without limitations, to manage what was, as long as the
veteran was alive, the veteran's property."
- "The granting of an aggregate damage award would serve to crystallize
the extent of the wrong done by the government over a period of 85
years to veterans that had been rendered helpless and incompetent, on
the Crown's own finding, while serving their country in its armed
forces."

In commenting on the decision the veterans' lawyers said: "This is truly
a significant judgment. For over eighty years, thousands of Canadian veterans
had no voice. Their own federal government had access to their personal funds,
failed to invest them, and failed in their duty as a trustee by not paying
them any return on their funds. Forced to sue their own government, these
veterans now know what they are owed. This decision is a call for leadership,
and a call to action to address this historical wrong."
"The timing of this judgment - during a federal election - provides
Canadians with the opportunity to ask their candidates for political office,
their political leaders, how they intend to address this vital national issue.
Not only is this an important issue of considerable financial significance,
but a moral one as well. We pride ourselves as being a nation that looks after
its most vulnerable citizens as part of our national culture and way of life.
Successive governments have failed these veterans, this government and indeed
our federal representatives elected post-January 23rd should be held to
account for their response to this judgment," they added.
The members of the veterans' legal team are: Raymond Colautti and David
Greenaway, Partners, Raphael Partners Barristers and Solicitors (Windsor,
Ontario) and Peter Sengbusch (London, Ontario).

To view Backgrounder please see:
http://www.newswire.ca/en/releases/a.../30/c4228.html



For further information: David Greenaway, Lawyer, Raphael Partners
(Windsor, Ontario), (519) 966-1300 Ext. 422; Raphael Partners Public
Relations, (519) 966-1300 Ext. 560
__________________
Alex Blair
:remember :support :drunk:
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 01:45.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © Maple Leaf Up, 2003-2016