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10-11-15, 02:21
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Wartime value of CMP
My cousin was killed in an automotive accident in England in 1944.
A 3 year old cab 12 30 cwt Ford was written off and the stated value before the accident is listed as $1085. The salvage value is listed as $649.20. Interesting bit of info.
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1940 Cab 11 C8 Wireless with 1A2 box & 11 set 1940 Cab 11 C8 cab and chassis 1940 Cab 11 C15 with 2A1 & Motley mount & Lewis gun 1940 Cab 11 F15A w/ Chev rear ends 1941 Cab 12 F15A 1942-44 Cab 13 F15A x 5 1942 cab 13 F15A with 2B1 box 1943 cab 13 F15A with 2H1 box 1943 Cab 13 C8A HUP 1944 Cab 13 C15A with 2C1 box 1943 Cletrac M2 High Speed Tractor MkII Bren gun carrier chassis x 2 
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10-11-15, 03:30
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Neat document.
Salvage value was $433.28. The $649.20 represents the loss to the crown as the result of the accident. I note their math does not quite add up. I guess it was the days before pocket calculators. The design branch records give some costs for each vehicle, but more-so for special vehicles like the armoured snowmobile ($8,000 IIRC) or the tanks. For estimating the value of vehicles before an accident, we used to use the Repair Expenditure Limit (REL) tables. There you take the cost of the vehicle when it was new, and use the relevant chart and find the percentage based on age vs mileage. Sounds like they may have been doing that back then as well. Now you just punch the data into a DND website.
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10-11-15, 03:42
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The document also gives a vehicle number of CL4203472 as legitimate if someone has an appropriate F30 waiting for a number. Were the numbers recycled after writeoffs to be appropriate for a later vehicle as well?
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10-11-15, 04:27
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Do you know anything further about the accident, David?
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Ford CMP, 115" WB,1942 (Under Restoration...still) Medium sized, half fake, artillery piece project. (The 1/4 Pounder)
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10-11-15, 06:53
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Ancestry.com has the service records for 44000 Canadian soldiers killed in the war. Walt Abbott's file has over 70 pages in it. An inquest was held and the driver was found not at fault.
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1940 Cab 11 C8 Wireless with 1A2 box & 11 set 1940 Cab 11 C8 cab and chassis 1940 Cab 11 C15 with 2A1 & Motley mount & Lewis gun 1940 Cab 11 F15A w/ Chev rear ends 1941 Cab 12 F15A 1942-44 Cab 13 F15A x 5 1942 cab 13 F15A with 2B1 box 1943 cab 13 F15A with 2H1 box 1943 Cab 13 C8A HUP 1944 Cab 13 C15A with 2C1 box 1943 Cletrac M2 High Speed Tractor MkII Bren gun carrier chassis x 2
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10-11-15, 07:40
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CMP values here in Australia
According to records unearthed by Gina the typical cost for a Ford chassis was 400 pounds (I don't know where the pound symbol is!) then 50 pounds to assemble it here and a further 400 pounds for the bodywork.
So if you work out the conversion to modern dollar amounts it is quite considerable.
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