Wanted, some instruments for a cab 13

[Pedro Bedard]

Hey all.
My first CMP and I'd like to get started gathering items I need. As you can see from this photo, some of the instruments are broken and some are missing;


http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q...ndtruck013.jpg

So I'd need a list of what's missing, and, hopefully, someone who has a few extras to sell.
If anyone has a diagram or a close up photo of the instrument panel from a cab 13 1944 Chevy CMP, I would appreciate that as well.

[Keith Webb]

Looks like the only original one you have is the temp, so apart from the speedo you'll need oil pressure, ammeter and fuel.

[cletrac (RIP)]

The round gauges are the same as most of the later US trucks used so you should be able to find some on some of the US sites.

[Pedro Bedard]

Originally Posted by cletrac

The round gauges are the same as most of the later US trucks used so you should be able to find some on some of the US sites.

And those "US sites" would be... what exactly?
Sorry but I am VERY new to this and have NO idea where to look. Or what to look for come to think of it.

[Barry Churcher]

Hi Pedro
The first thing I would do is buy a repair manual and a parts manual. Brian Asbury and Grant Bowker, both on this site, have excellent reproductions. Above all don't get discouraged as this restoration will take considerable time. You are starting off the job in the right way by stripping the truck of the non CMP gear. I would then do an evaluation of what you have and what you need. Remember you have been continually perusing those manuals while occupying the white throne. Change all the fluids and try to get it moving to assess the drive train but be careful there are probably no brakes. The other guys in the west are great and some may be close to you. They can give you invaluable assistance. Again Brian Asbury (Ontario) has parts and someone will give you his phone number or I can get it for you. Dirk Leegwater in the Netherlands also has tons of stuff. Just Google LWD parts.
Good luck and be patient.
Barry

[Pedro Bedard]

Originally Posted by Barry Churcher

Hi Pedro
The first thing I would do is buy a repair manual and a parts manual. Brian Asbury and Grant Bowker, both on this site, have excellent reproductions.

I'd love to!
Um, how DO I get a hold of them? There is no search function for User names on this forum. Or, if there is, it's VERY well hidden...

[Geoff Winnington-Ball (RIP)]

Originally Posted by Pedro Bedard

I'd love to!
Um, how DO I get a hold of them? There is no search function for User names on this forum. Or, if there is, it's VERY well hidden...

Hit Search in the top bar, then Advanced Search. You can type in the username (Brian's is 'BCA') then click on the name for contact details. Either Brian or Grant will be able to help you.

[Alex Blair (RIP)]

Originally Posted by Geoff Winnington-Ball

Hit Search in the top bar, then Advanced Search. You can type in the username (Brian's is 'BCA') then click on the name for contact details. Either Brian or Grant will be able to help you.

Pedro..
Great advice from jif and here is some more..Some of the best restoration guys in the world on Rusty Old Trucks..green of course, are right down the road from you..
Contact them and see if you can visit them and get some experience on what you are doing..They would be glad to get a hand or just a visit..bring beer and they would probably keep you as a pet..
Just off the top of my head I think of Rob Fast..Rob Love..Derk Derkin..all Manitoba CMP collectors and restorers..
and all members here on MLU forum and you can contact them by personal message and ask for help and ask to meet them or visit them..
Jeez..Manitoba has such few people, visitors are treated like royalty..They even like traveling sales men..even if they have daughters..
That is where all the traveling salesmen/farmers daughters jokes started..
I'm sure you will be well received..

Here is a partial list of manuals that Grant has..and probably Brian too..
You will find your vehicle maintenance manual and parts manual here..
I recommend the MB-C2 maintenance manual for Chevs and the MB-F1 maintenance manual for Fords..
Read them cover to cover and then start on your truck..you can wreck more or even injust your self by not knowing some of the info on these vehicles..especially the wheels and tires..Run flats hold air and you can kill your self by not knowing how to take these wheels apart or service them..
Good luck

#1: 150 pages* CMA-01 Chev. And Gm Illustrated Catalogue Of Major Assemblies (Aug'44) (Engines, Transmissions, Transfer Cases, Front & Rear Axel, Steering) Cdn. Military Pattern Vehicles And Armoured Truck, Armoured And Reconnaissance Cars And Modified Conventional Vehicles. (50 Models)

#1A:300+ pages No.197 Chevrolet Spare Parts List..1940-1942 For CMP Vehicles..8 hwt.4x2,15 hwt.4x2,15 hwt.4x4, 30 hwt.4x4,3 ton 4x4,F.A. Gun Tractor 4x4... Aug 1942

#2: 150 pages Bodies Part List Illustrated, for CMP vehicles, G.S. (Wood and Steel), F.A.T. W-35 Wrecker, Water Tanker, Etc., 34 plates, issued by Dept. of Munitions & Supply, Canada. Oct. '41.

#2B 400+ Pages MACH-F-1 Parts and Instruction Manual for Machinery Lorry Equiptment Type F Lorry(Used with GM 6X6 C-60X) Well illustrated ,including equipment layouts,wiring diagrams,distribution panels,etc.(Includes Willys MB generator set used with this style body).Used as a field repair shop for vehicles. August 1943

#3: 300+ pages MB-C2 Maintenance Manual, for GM CMP vehicles. 15 cwt 4x2, 15 cwt. 4x4, 30 cwt 4x4, 3 ton 4x4 HU 4x4, F.A.T. 4x4. Sept. 1943

#3A 300+ pages GM Service Bulletins Updates for MB-C2(May-November 1943).. ***These bulletins were issued to the field maintenance shops for upgrades to the CMP vehicles.. Many proceedures in the bulletins and additions did not make the maintenance manuals.

#3B 300+ pages MB-C1 Maintenance Manual For GM CMP vehicles...C-15,C-15A,C-30,C-60S,C-60L,C-GT C-8A Issued April 1942

#4: 262 pages CGT-03 CHEV. ILLUST. SPARE PARTS LIST, F.A. GUN TRACTOR, MOD. CGT - CHASSIS 8440-, 101 "WB" (INC.CGT-01, CGT-02 & CGT-03) CDN. MIL. PATTERN. (MAR'45).

#5: 218 pages C8A-04 CHEV. ILLUST. SPARE PARTS LIST FOR HEAVY UTILITY 4x4 C/W PERSONNEL BODY - (INC. C8A-01, C8A-02, C8A-03, & C8A-04) (JUNE '45)

#6: 280 pages C15A-04 CHEV. ILLUST. SPARE PARTS LIST, 15 CWT 4X4. MODEL C15A - CHASSIS 8444 101 W.B., CDN. MIL. PATTERN (INCLUDES C15A-01, 02, 03, 04 MODELS) (MAY '45) BODY OPTIONS:- VAN, OFFICE, WATER TANK, WIRELESS, CABLE LAYER, PERSONNEL, BATTERY CHARGER, AND GENERAL SERVICE.

#7: 210 pages C15-02 CHEV. ILLUST. SPARE PARTS LIST. 15CWT 4X2 MODEL C15 - CHASSIS 8421, 101" W.B. CDN.MIL. PATTERN (INC. MOD. C15-01, 02) BODY OPTIONS:- VAN, OFFICE, WATER TANK, WIRELESS, CABLE LAYER, PERSONNEL, AND GENERAL SERVICE.

#8: 150 pages C8-01 CHEV. ILLUST. SPARE PARTS LIST, 8 CWT 4X2, MODEL C8 - CHASSIS 8420, 101" W.B. CDN. MIL. PATTERN (NOV.'43) BODY OPTIONS:- WIRELESS & PERSONNEL.

#9: 304 pages C60S-03 CHEV. ILLUST. PARTS LIST, 3 TON 4x4 MOD.C60S- chassis 8442, 134" W.B., CDN.MIL. PATTERN (INC. C60S-01, 02, 03) (MAY '44) BODY OPTIONS: DUMP, GENERAL SERVICE, STORES, DERRICK, ENGINEERS, TELEPHONE AND WRECKER.

#10: 316 pages C60L-03 CHEV. ILLUST. PARTS LIST, 3-TON 4X4, MOD. C60L, CHASSIS 8443, 158" W.B. CDN.MIL. PATTERN (INCL. C60L-01, 02, 03) (APR.'44) BODY OPTIONS:- AMBULANCE, DENTAL, DERRICK, DISINFECTOR, ENGINEERS, GENERAL SERVICE, OFFICE, PETROL TANK, WATER TANK, STORES, WORKSHOP, WRECKER, 6 POUNDER ANTI-TANK PORTEE.

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[derk derin]

We don't have "Friendly Manitoba" on our licence plates for nothing!
Derk.

[Walde Libera]

I used a mechanical set from Princess Auto, they sell a 3 gauge set, oil, temp and ammeter under $30 for all 3. I taped the glass and gave them a light bead blast to roughen the chrome, etching primer and finally OD green.

The temp gauge had the longer line @72" which is needed in a CMP cab 13.
The other advantage is you can light up the gauges on your dash as they all come with a built in light option. Just tie in to tour dash lite circuit, if you do any night driving its easy to see how your engines vital signs are doing.

As far as the speed o goes, the standard M series speed o works, but may not have the trip odometer but drops in easy, Ebay, type in M37 or M38 or M35, there are usually lots available $40-100.

As far as the 2 big holes go they are standard Jeep WW2 style, lots of NOS available $20 #30 for the pair.

Your CMP looks to be in good condition judging by the picture, send some more!

Walde