Motorcyle ID's please

Bill Miller · #1 24-09-06, 18:14

Would it be possible for some knowledgeable person(s) to identify the particular motorcycles in these photos. Also the truck at right in the top photo (source Kangaroo named Karla) ... (the Ram Kangaroo I spotted

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Thanks,
Bill.

Jon Skagfeld · #2 24-09-06, 19:03

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Originally posted by Bill Miller
Would it be possible for some knowledgeable person(s) to identify the particular motorcycles in these photos.

Dunno about the M/C (Snortin' Norton?)...but the item sitting on the rear of the bike is a Wireless Set No 19 Mk III CDN transceiver.

Richard Farrant · #3 24-09-06, 19:27

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Originally posted by Bill Miller
Would it be possible for some knowledgeable person(s) to identify the particular motorcycles in these photos. Also the truck at right in the top photo

Bill,

The lower photo is of a BSA WM20. The upper photo........I think it may be a "captured" or liberated motorcycle, does not look military, a small two stroke. The truck behind is more than likely German.

Richard

Rich Payne · #4 24-09-06, 21:02

The first bike does look, as Richard suggests, like a captured or civilian impressed machine. It has that Northern European two-stroke look about it. Could it be an Ardie or Adler or something ? I don't think that the tank badge is the stylised eagle of Adler but they both made similar types of machine.

No danger of catching out Richard on WM20s. Based on the "C" number, probably a late 1943 build (good old Orchard & Madden again !)

Rich.

mike mckinley · #5 24-09-06, 21:29

hi gents,

my guess regards pic 1 is that the truck is a klockner-deutz, and the bike is a dkw, but this is just a guess

cheers!!
mike

Rich Payne · #6 24-09-06, 21:42

I've just had another look. I think that the German bike is a Wanderer, pretty like this one :-

http://www.motorrad-action.com/archi...3_4303_JPG.jpg

Rich.

Hanno Spoelstra · #7 24-09-06, 23:11

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Originally posted by mike mckinley
my guess regards pic 1 is that the truck is a klockner-deutz

Or is it an Opel Blitz?

H.

Alex van de Wetering · #8 25-09-06, 00:09

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Originally posted by Hanno Spoelstra
Or is it an Opel Blitz?

That's what I thought; an Opel Blitz radio van

Alex

Bill Miller · #9 25-09-06, 04:06

Thanks Guys, I appreciate the assistance. Always nice to know what you are looking at

Regarding the #19 Set on the back of the motorcycle. I believe I have seen this type of set-up in another photo of a DR with a wireless receiver on the back. My question would be, does the set stay functioning or does it get completely shaken apart??? Unpaved roads and 2 stroke engines aren't the smoothest ride around!? Was it standard to mount wireless sets on motorcycles?

Reading the 1CACR Signals troop war diaries, it seems they had a lot of problems keeping the sets in the Kangaroos dry, operating and on net. I can't even imagine that is possible on the back of a rattle trap motor bike?

Bill.

Rob van Meel · #10 25-09-06, 11:22

My two pence worth:
The German two stroke looks like a Wanderer, of I guess 98 cc.
The WD motorcycle is a BSA WM20. The front mudguard mounting on the fork blades is typical for BSA.

Rob

Hanno Spoelstra · #11 14-10-06, 22:40

Henk Minne, KTR member, told me it looks like a Wanderer 125-cc two-stroke to him. "Most likely pre-war, 1937-1940, probably spent the war in an attic as it seems very well preserved".

H.

Jon Skagfeld · #12 15-10-06, 00:52

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Originally posted by Bill Miller
Thanks Guys, I appreciate the assistance. Always nice to know what you are looking at

Regarding the #19 Set on the back of the motorcycle. I believe I have seen this type of set-up in another photo of a DR with a wireless receiver on the back. My question would be, does the set stay functioning or does it get completely shaken apart??? Unpaved roads and 2 stroke engines aren't the smoothest ride around!? Was it standard to mount wireless sets on motorcycles?

Reading the 1CACR Signals troop war diaries, it seems they had a lot of problems keeping the sets in the Kangaroos dry, operating and on net. I can't even imagine that is possible on the back of a rattle trap motor bike?

Bill.

Bill: Most probably this Dispatch Rider would have been delivering the radio via Special Dispatch Service (SDR).

There's no way that he could have operated it, on the move, as shown.

Reference 1CACR's keeping their sets dry...with an open turret ring, no wonder they had a problem. Even the Covers, Waterproof wouldn't have been effective.