Ford V8 Engine Color? Ford Gearbox Color?

[macca004]

G-day all does anyone know what is the original colour for the ford V8 engine.

Many thanks.

Macca.:

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally posted by macca004
G-day all does anyone know what is the original colour for the ford V8 engine.

Macca,

See "What colour should your V8 engine be painted" for some input on this subject.

Hanno

[Mike Kelly]

The original Ford Blitz engine I had years ago was a mid green colour , much like brunswick green .

The best thing to use is mid or dark brunswick green . Wattyl make a epoxy enamel ideal for painting engines . Its available at the Cheap Auto stores in 1 litre cans . Its called killrust I think , no primer is needed . I bake it in the oven at 100 C for about 15 minutes , it goes very hard .

Mike

[Tony Smith]

A company called Permanent Painted Coatings distributes the POR15 range of paints and lists a dark green engine enamel for "Ford A's, B's and V8's"

www.ppc.au.com

[John Stokes]

Hi All,
I am hoping someone can help me with the colour of the Engine,Gearbox and Transfer.ASlso what were the colour of the tail shafts? Thank You.C15A Chev

[Tony Smith]

Someone could probably help you better if you were specific about the vehicle and year, and the country of service.

This topic has come up before, and a search finds This info for Chevs, and this for Fords.

[Keith Webb]

Originally Posted by Tony Smith

Someone could probably help you better if you were specific about the vehicle and year, and the country of service.

This topic has come up before, and a search finds This info for Chevs, and this for Fords.

John has a former C15A Wireless Signals (Aust) as well as a 3-tonner.

So they are Holden assembled 1942 or 43 year. I've seen engines either black, grey or vehicle colour. The transfer case and driveshafts were khaki like the rest of the truck - if you're depicting post-war then you might consider gloss deep bronze green as an overall colour too.

[Jim Price]

All:
I picked the Ford engine green color associated with engines made during 1940 for commercial vehicles assuming that early on Ford would have used them on F8's.

As for the transmission, I used black engine paint because that's all I had and I intend on changing it out anyway. The new one will use the same Ford engine green as that was on the original tranny that came with the truck. Yep! After cleaning off all the gunk, there was that green paint!

As for the drive shaft and differential, they'll both be the same color as the truck itself.

Regards,
Jim

[sth65pac]

Hello all, I am up to painting my engine after eternity cleaning it,

For a Sidevalve Ford V8 1942 CMP. What Color should it be?

Some say The engine should be Black & Some Say Dark Olive Gloss Green for Engines.

My Gearbox is definitely grey (gray).

Can someone Clarify what should be what.

I need a picture as evidence too.

I have your pictures Tony, but any other evidence before I fill the gun and spray would help me... Its a job for Sunday afternoon. I cant wait... (and I will post pictures when its finished...

Ian

[Keith Webb]

That old chestnut again!

Recently the AWM had two Ford CMPs restored, a 1942 F15A and FGT No9 and after research chose to paint them black. I have seen chassis with black under the khaki.

However other engines I've seen in original vehicles have been painted matt khaki as is the rest of the vehicle. Evidence from factory photographs tends to support this too. I painted Chris' F15 engine and gearbox in the vehicle colour. Air cleaners, starter, generator and oil filler pipe are black.

Ultimately of course it's your choice as you're the one who has been through the hard yards of cleaning them.

[sth65pac]

I agree with you Keith,

From looking at some photos of production vehicles, they look Green, not black, cant find paint on either engine (I have) which would give me a clue either way...

But I suppose it really doesn't matter. It will be a few people who will see the dang thing once its back in..

Just trying to appease the gods of criticism.. A pity there are so few colour photos.. I am beginning to appreciate the need for attention to detail.

I do have the feeling that Western Desert Vehicles have had black bits with the Light Stone, whereas the 'Green machines' had green bits.

Makes logical sense. Happy to take votes . ONCE its painted though its painted..!

Ian

[cliff]

Many moons ago when I was doing the old car bit in my teens I was lead to believe that all Ford motors were painted green with starter, generator etc painted black much in the same way that Dodge motors were painted a silver grey colour with black fittings. These were carry overs from civilian production as far as the Dodge motors went so I wonder if it is correct also for the Ford motors?

[sth65pac]

Originally Posted by cliff

Many moons ago when I was doing the old car bit in my teens I was lead to believe that all Ford motors were painted green with starter, generator etc painted black much in the same way that Dodge motors were painted a silver grey colour with black fittings. These were carry overs from civilian production as far as the Dodge motors went so I wonder if it is correct also for the Ford motors?

Cliff
I think you are correct. I have looked at a lot of B&W photos from teh era and all seem to be of that configuration as far as I can tell. Good thing I have painted all the Generator and starter black then.

Everyone thanks... Painting tomorrow hopefully.

Ian

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by sth65pac

I do have the feeling that Western Desert Vehicles have had black bits with the Light Stone, whereas the 'Green machines' had green bits.

Bear in mind they were going through V8 engines in the desert on a very high rate - see quote below. Due to the increased wear because of the sand engines were changed frequently. Possibly "crate" or exchange engines were painted black?

Originally Posted by Hanno Spoelstra

From Gregg's "Blueprint for Victory" p.151: "Kuno Stockelbach, a civilian employee of Ford Motor Company of Canada, supervised all vehicle assembly and major overhaul facilities for the British 8th, 9th and 10th Armies in North Africa and the Middle East from the Fall of 1941 until the end of the Sicilian Campaign.
Kuno attempted to keep the inventory list down by putting Canadian 95 h.p. Ford V8 engines in anything that had room under the hood. All Universal Carriers were re-engined, at the first refit, with the larger powerplant, as were English Ford products such as the W.O.T. transport series. Engines did not last long in the North African desert; Universal Carrier engines were changed every 2,000-3,000 miles and transport vehicles after 10,000 miles. The enthusiast should not despair if he finds a British-built Armoured Car equipped with a Canadian Ford V8 engine. This was the standard refitting procedure in North Africa."

[Sean Dunnage]

Can anyone tell me what colour the engine block of a 1940 Ford F30 V8 would be.

Thanks
Sean
sdunnage@rogers.com

[Jim Price]

Sean,
I found the following on this site:http://www.vanpeltsales.com/FH_web/f...85to100mid.htm

"As for original paint colors, the Ford and Mercury engines through 1940 were a dark green. Ford cars continued the color until 1942. Mercury engine had a dark blue color from 1941 thru 1948. Postwar Ford engines were dark blue thru 1948. Ford truck engines were generally the same as Ford cars during the years of this group. "

Hope this helps!

Regards,
Jim

PS You can get this green paint from Mac's or on eBay

[Sean Dunnage]

Thanks Jim I appreciate the quick reply and the help.

Sean

[Keith Webb]

The subject of colours (even how the word is spelled) is a vexed one.

All I can add to the discussion is what I have observed over some 40 years of involvement including stripping many sidevalve V8s for rebuilding in the 70s.

I've seen ex-military ones painted Khaki over black, and I have seen those painted khaki without another colour underneath. If you look at some of the Ford factory pictures of CMPs being assembled you'll see they were vehicle colour, with engine accessories such as starter, generator, conduits, oil filler pipe, carb and breather air cleaners painted black.

All this leads me to believe there is no single 'correct' answer.

I wonder whether the dark green was for US or non-military production.

[Mike Timoshyk]

rusty brown on top....some black smudges 'n black 'n dirty underneith

cheers

Mike