52 pattern web

[mike mckinley]

hi all

in putting together a set of 52 web i've run into a problem. which canteen did canada use with this kit? does anyone have a pic of one?

thanks

mike

[NORTH-SHORE(CANADA)]

Hi here a pic of the equipment 52 pat the canteen is the same as ww2 but the canteen holder is different the snape is on the top for korea and on the side for WW2

http://www.cmhg.gc.ca/cmh/book_image...07_ss01_02.jpg

[rob love]

I believe that we had gone over to the US pattern M1910 style canteen and cup with the 52 pattern webbing.

[Ed Storey]

The Pattern is actually 1951 and not 1952 as many seem to call it and it was a hybrid pattern which used pieces and adaptations from both the 1937 Pattern Web and US Web. The Canteen, Canteen Cup and Carrier were adopted from US designs and manufactured in Canada. The Canteen Cup and Carrier were interchangeable with US models and as time progressed US manufactured examples were issued similtaneously with Canadian pieces. 1951 Pattern Web was initially issued to the final Korean rotations in 1954 as well as the Canadian Infantry Brigade in Germany starting in the mid-1950s. Full sets of the pattern were not available when the web set was initially issued and it was not uncommon to wear a combination of 1937 and 1951 Patterns until the required pieces (namely the Canteen and Cup combinations) were available for issue. The 1951 Pattern remained in use by the Regular Force until the mid to late-1960s when it was replaced by the 1964 Pattern; and many Reserve units until the early 1980s when the 1982 Pattern was issued.

Here are some Canteen, Cup and Carrier images from my collection.



Cantenn, Cup and Carrier



Canteen and Cup



Canteen markings



Canteen markings

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e3...p-markings.jpg

Canteen Cup



Canteen Cup markings

[mike mckinley]

thanks to all for the replies, they are very helpful. it looks like i have the correct canteen for the 51 pat web..infact, my canteen is mfr stamped the same as the one in this thread. the cup, i havn't located as of yet, but that is half of the fun!! thanks again!!

mike

[NORTH-SHORE(CANADA)]

Hi Mike

found this pic on the web look at the canteen

[Ed Storey]

This is a very famous Korean War image and I believe shows 2 PPCLI in theatre. Everyone is wearing 1937 Pattern Web Equipment, not 1951 Pattern which is green and not tan coloured web. As well, the 1951 Pattern Waistbelt has US style eyelet holes to attach the Canteen and messtin Carriers, the Waistbelts in this image do not have the eyelet holes and are 1937 Pattern. Lots of kit being carried including and Insulated Food Container.

[mike mckinley]

i wish someone would write a definitive book on the 51 pat web, similar to the 37 pat web book you authored. that book cleared up a lot of issues for me when i was building a set of 37 web.

[Ed Storey]

The is a similar book in the works that will cover the 1951 Pattern Web Set. I am glad the 1937 Pattern book was of use to you.

[NORTH-SHORE(CANADA)]

Originally Posted by Ed Storey

This is a very famous Korean War image and I believe shows 2 PPCLI in theatre. Everyone is wearing 1937 Pattern Web Equipment, not 1951 Pattern which is green and not tan coloured web. As well, the 1951 Pattern Waistbelt has US style eyelet holes to attach the Canteen and messtin Carriers, the Waistbelts in this image do not have the eyelet holes and are 1937 Pattern. Lots of kit being carried including and Insulated Food Container.

Hi

Could you explaine me i have to different canteen holder one the snap button on the top date 1952 for korea and on the snap button is on the side for 1944 WW2

[Ed Storey]

Sounds to me like you have a 1950s dated 1937 Pattern Waterbottle Carrier with the snaps on the top as opposed to the side, am I correct? What are the markings on your Carrier? Can you post an image?