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Old 22-10-21, 04:34
maple_leaf_eh maple_leaf_eh is offline
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Default Halfway House Freight Forwarding, aka how to get stuff across the border

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Iíve been quiet about how Iíd get replacement body panels for the 1974 Pattern M151A2. Today I can report a successful run up to the US border and return with a ďcrateĒ of four newly produced rear body panels from www.m151bodypanels.com, otherwise known as Cameron Fabricating in Horseshead, New York. My point of contact has been Guy Loomis. Dave who is doing the rebuild pronounced the pieces very well made and worth every penny and every hour saved. They arrived very well protected, and nicely wrapped.

The story begins with a critical conversation about what could and what could not be saved on the jeep. Dave identified what he knew would be easier to buy than build, including one panel listed on a German M151 panel website but not Cameronís US site. Guy and I had a couple conversations, including about the German panel. Yes, he makes all their stock, but the US site hasnít been updated. He put my job onto the schedule, and whatever shift got the job, bent and welded the A2 rear panel specifically for my order. He took my credit card info, and a few days later sent me the transport tracking number.

In The Here And Now Times, the Canada/US border restricts just about all travel, and shipping has become hideously expensive and problematic. In The Before Times, I would have crossed the border at Ogdensburg, New York to get a shipment, sent for cheap inside the US. The solution is an anomaly of geography and boundary surveying in Ste Agnes de Dundee, Quebec where Half Way House Freight Forwarding www.hwhff.biz run a cross border shipping operation.

The building is a rundown 1843-vintage smalltown hotel and tavern one-time known as the International Hotel. Liquor licencing jurisdictions and border security changes forced them out of the draft beer and pickled eggs business, and into becoming a shipping office. The front door is in New York, and the back porch, via a muddy driveway through an orchard, is in Quebec. There is an actual line in the terrazzo floor with Canada and USA labels. Deliveries go their respective sideís door, and the workers physically move the parcel inside the converted beer parlour and onto plywood shelves. Conveniently, the Canada Customs station is 50m over on the other side of the parking lot. Two plywood direction signs remind customers to speak to Customs next.

My observations on the business. Caveat Emptor. It is not a gleaming, polished machine. The record keeping was a loose-leaf binder and paper money was literally dropped into a desk drawer. My 100lb pallet was $20. I doubt there is any fire or theft insurance. There was a problem with my name on the shipping label. The old fella who owns the business or the family operate it, could have easily sent the pallet back to Cameron. So as quickly as I was told of its arrival, I got going. There is no actual freight dock or loading platform, and my pallet was sitting outside. It probably was stored inside overnight, but anything that canít be manhandled through a passage door might be an issue. Finally, because of the border closures I had to drive from Ottawa to Valleyfield, Quebec then southwest to Ste Agnes de Dundee. Two sides of a triangle, with the St Lawrence River in between. Half Way House is convenient for Montreal and the Eastern Townships, and somewhat handy for Eastern Ontario. But unless the savings are significant, budget your trip to include the fuel, and a poutine and a Pepsi at a roadside frite stand.

The trip was interesting for one other reason. On the 7th of November all of Quebec will have their municipal elections. One set of signs enroute had a familiar name and smile. Retired RSM of the Canadian Army CWO Gino Moretti, who was CWO of RC(South) in Kandahar when I was there, is up for reelection in St Anicet. Retirement obviously didnít fit Gino, err Sir!
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Old 22-10-21, 18:27
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Terry,

What a wild story! Guy is a great person. I've bought (actually he gifted me*) one small part for my 151A1 I need to restore. He will have my business for a lot more soon as I get going. I look forward to an open border again soon. Rumor has it, it'll open up days after a model train show in Syracuse that our Northern friend's won't be able to join us for this year.

Matthew

*I asked Guy if he sold just the reinforcement that goes under the Blackout light on the fender. He sent me one no charge. I still haven't welded it into place. But I KNOW I'll be buying from him when I go to get the rest of the sheet metal.
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Old 22-10-21, 18:42
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Terry,

Rumor has it, it'll open up days after a model train show in Syracuse that our Northern friend's won't be able to join us for this year.

Matthew
The US side is opening up no problem.....we can go South with proof of vaccination. The problem will be getting back into Canada. As it stands, if we even go South for 15 minutes to pick up parcels, we will have to show a test done within 72 hours showing that we don't have covid. Of course, that test will refer to one's status while in Canada, and not anything we might have picked up in the 15 minutes were were South of the border.

When asked, the politicians say "we will continue to follow the science". Here in Canada, the test runs between $250 and $300. Hopefully common sense will enter at some point, but as it stands now, day trips, or 15 minute trips, are out of the question.

Glad you found a way around this Terry.
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Old 23-10-21, 01:46
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As it stands, if we even go South for 15 minutes to pick up parcels, we will have to show a test done within 72 hours showing that we don't have COVID. Of course, that test will refer to one's status while in Canada, and not anything we might have picked up in the 15 minutes we were South of the border.

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Glad you found a way around this Terry.
Yes, that is still the most problematic of the recent announcements.

Speaking of Guy's contribution to the project. As soon as the order came in, he put it in the production schedule. One of my parts was made just for me because even though Cameron makes it for their German distributor, it isn't in the US catalogue. From the floor to the shipping room to the truck and to the freight company, I don't think my order stopped moving. I'm actually still waiting for the invoice. Unquestionably I'll pay!
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- 74-????? M151A2
- 70-08876 M38A1
- 53-71233 M100CDN trailer

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Old 23-10-21, 01:56
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Default Pictures tell the story

I saved some pictures from their FB page.

Notice the terrazzo floor and billiards table sitting in the US. That table stays in the US because the Quebec liquor board wanted to tax the table as a gambling "device".

Observe the rustic porch and the back door from the Canadian side.

Relax in the comfortable furniture and charming decor. The overhead ducting is all part of the charm, and the fan is strong enough to dry out your eyeballs!

Finally, Half Way House is on the left of the picture. That is the muddy driveway I mentioned. Canada Customs is the two level cheerless structure behind the white building, which is a certified freight impound facility. I know because the Customs guy threatened to seize my shipment for lack of paperwork. I expect someone lives in the charming house straight at the end of the road. New York state is just off the left side of the photo.
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- 70-08876 M38A1
- 53-71233 M100CDN trailer

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